E-mail and Web Use to be Monitored

We are so lucky in the UK that our secret services are so s***...they could not organise a piss up in a brewery!

I am of the mind to think that since it's illegal under EU law, yet they are proceeding ahead anyway,..to me, that spells something important.
Add to that all the good points you just made, and...
I find it a bit worrisome really.

I think I'm the only person who thinks this but I don't really think it's such a bad thing really. People in this country are too hell-bent on personal liberty.

I think the Government should and do have the right to monitor what we do and ensure we don't break the law.

Maybe that's just me though.

From a personal perspective I somehow doubt anyone would give s*** about what I look up anyway. Seems to be one of those 'if you do nothing wrong you have nothing to worry about' thing to me.

because we haven't got a written constitution .. apart from magna carta ... and we're regarded as subjects of the 'queen!'

that last remark is a commonly used one whenever an invasion of privacy is on the cards .... the problem is ... governments over time can move the goal posts ... so what we don't have to worry about today ..could well be something we have to worry about tomorrow ..

Not quite accurate.

We haven't got anything that guarantees personal liberty in this way like they do in America. I think we should have a codified constitution, but one that ensures the government, not the people, have the power.

The people should elect a government and then the government should be able to do as they see fit, so long as it doesn't break certain terms of the constitution, until the next election. Imo personal freedom should be guaranteed to an extent, but by in large the government should have power over us. We should be allowed to complain, but really it's up to Her Majesty's Government to do these things if it so wishes.

I'm not entirely sure what the problem with this is anyway, other than some theoretical idea of our liberty being at risk. Already we have more freedom on the Internet than we do in real life, as far as I can see, I don't see why the Internet should exist under different rules and regulations than real life does to be honest.

There is no proof of that. People claim that every time the government does something that people consider 'intrusive', despite this the Government of this country has actually been getting more liberal and less intrusive over the last four decades. The idea that this is the start of some oppressive, dictatorial regime is unfounded paranoia oft-touted by people who think political correctness and health and safety legislation is somehow an affront to their God-given right to freedom.

well the proof is in history ... russia and germany are decent examples ... peoples spoken opinions had to change pretty rapidly in those countries during the change in power ... we are more at risk today from a change of direction by a government .. or a change of administration .. because a lot of our opinions are already out there oin the net .... this proposal can access our text messages as well as our email.... and if people didn't oppose infringement of personal freedom in this country .. then by now we could have had a one party state .. because opposition politicians .. would have been smeared and discredited by accessing their private correspondence ... oh and freedom isn't god given ... it's dependent on the good will of the people in charge ..and it needs to be guarded constantly .

Ohhh! I know the lord wasn't involved in that which I have so much gratitude for.

I'm not so sure about that. I don't think the government monitoring us (which they do anyway in real life more here than any other western democracy in the world apparently) has anything to do with communist Russia or Nazi Germany.

Also worth remembering that this is just extending existing legislation.

i view it from the standpoint that history demonstrates that even great nations can go through huge political changes at any moment ... it's important for people to be able to hold an opinion about those that rule us ... and also not to be afraid to share that opinion ... if measures like these are introduced ..then i,like treebee would be forced to review everything that i write ... i would censor everything before committing anything to mail or text ..

I'm off the opinion that the Government isn't authoritarian enough which leaves us in a situation where there could be a popular people's uprising and lead us into the s***e.

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The goverment can monitor my web usage all they want. I dont do anything illegal online for a start so I know I aint gionna get arrested. Secondly if I was gonna do something illegal I would use proxies so I couldnt be traced.

Secondly if some guy is gonna find my online activities that interesting he will choose to look at them over the other millions of usage logs from around the country each day then good for him Im glad Ive made his job more enjoyable.

Seriously I have nothing to hide so I aint bothered. I dont pirate movies I dont look at porn and I dont partake in hacking activities so personally I have nothing to worry about.

All you lot who are kicking off though Im quite interested in what you get upto.