Lesbian Households Produce A Child Abuse Rate Of 0%

Blimey..... this one has prodded a few responses, hasn't it..? I'm actually quite impressed with how the discussion hasn't wandered too far off topic.... it's managed to stay reasonably within the realms of the family aspect, or at least, it's stayed close to "on topic" more so than most threads on this site.

I'll re-iterate my original point. The survey that I posted was a clear contradiction to those who say that LGBT couples are not fit to raise a family solely by virtue of their sexuality...... That being an LGBT couple disqualifies them from the right to a family life.

At no point did I ever claim that the survey result was indicative of ALL LGBT relationships. Heck, anybody who claims that all LGBT's make perfect parents can be shot down by two words: Rosemary West.

No, not all of us are perfect. Some of us are flawed, but that in no way disqualifies the vast majority of us from raising a family than it does with similarly flawed hetero couples.

Drawing attention to the survey is no bad thing because it reinforces the common sense argument that LGBT couples are as capable of being good parents as hetero couples and therefore nobody should ever nay say us our right to family happiness.

Those who wish to object on religious grounds can do so all they wish, but their arguments appear more and more fatuous every time another little piece of hard evidence such as the survey I posted at OP comes along.

Sooner or later, the oppression of LGBT couples will fall apart, and this will achieved in some part by the drip-drip-drip effect of the little things.



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I'm a lesbian.

DEAL WITH IT!

Here is a partial list of "end of the world" predictions that were supposed to have occurred during my life: (If you read them all I probably made a mistake or two, but really I am sure you get the point... )

1962, Feb 4 Jeanne Dixon This psychic predicted a planetary alignment on this day was to bring destruction to the world on this day. [77]
1967 Jim Jones The founder of the Peoples Temple stated he had visions that a nuclear holocaust was to take place in 1967. [78]
1967, Aug 20 George Van Tassel This day would mark the beginning of the third woe of the Apocalypse, during which the southeastern US would be destroyed by a Soviet nuclear attack, according to this UFO prophet, who claimed to have channeled an alien named Ashtar. [79]
1969 Charles Manson Manson predicted that an apocalyptic race war would occur in 1969 and ordered the Tate-LaBianca murders in an attempt to bring it about. [80]
1969, Aug 9 George Williams The founder of the Church of the Firstborn predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this day. [81]
1972 Herbert W. Armstrong The second of three revised dates from Armstrong after his 1936 and 1943 predictions failed to come true. [74]
1973, Jan 11-21 David Berg Berg, the leader of Children of God predicted that there would be a colossal doomsday event heralded by Comet Kohoutek. [82][83]
1975 Herbert W. Armstrong Armstrong's fourth and final false prediction. [74]
Jehovah's Witnesses In 1966 Jehovah's Witnesses estimated it would be 6000 years since man's creation in the fall of 1975 and it would be "appropriate" for Christ's thousand-year reign to begin at that time. These claims were repeated throughout the late 1960s and in 1974 they reaffirmed there was just a short time remaining before "the wicked world's end". [84]
1977 John Roe The founder of the Christian Israelite Church predicted this year for Armageddon to occur. [62]
William M. Branham This Christian minister predicted the Rapture would occur no later than 1977. [85]
1980 Leland Jensen In 1978 Jensen predicted that there would be a nuclear disaster in 1980, followed by two decades of conflict, culminating in God's Kingdom being established on earth. [86]
1980s Hal Lindsey Lindsey book The 1980s: Countdown to Armageddon stated ""the decade of the 1980s could very well be the last decade of history as we know it" and that the U.S. could be "destroyed by a surprise Soviet nuclear attack.". The book strongly suggests that the 1980s would see the biblical events of tribulation and end times come to pass. [87]
1981 Chuck Smith The founder of Calvary Chapel predicted the generation of 1948 would be the last generation, and that the world would end by 1981 at the latest. [88]
1982, Mar 10 John Gribbin, Stephen Plagemann Stated in their book The Jupiter Effect that combined gravitational forces of lined up planets were supposed to bring the end of the world on this day. [89]
1982, Jun 21 Benjamin Creme Creme took out an ad in the Los Angeles stating the Second Coming would occur in June 1982 with the Maitreya announcing it on worldwide television. [90]
1982, Oct/Nov Pat Robertson In late 1976 Robertson predicted that the end of the world was coming in October or November 1982. [91]
1984, Oct 2 Jehovah's Witnesses Another prediction of the end from the Jehovah's Witnesses. [92]
1985 Lester Sumrall This minister predicted the end in this year, even writing a book about it entitled I Predict 1985. [93]
1987–1988 Noah Hutchings, The president of the Southwest Radio Church suggested that the Rapture would take place "possibly in 1987 or 1988." [94]
1987, Apr 29 Leland Jensen Jensen predicted that Halley's Comet would be pulled into Earth's orbit on April 29, 1986, causing widespread destruction. [95]
1987, Aug 17 José Argüelles Argüelles claimed that Armageddon would take place unless 144,000 people gathered in certain places in the world in order to "resonate in harmony" on this day. [96]
1988 Hal Lindsey Lindsey suggested that the Rapture would take this year, reasoning that it was 40 years (one Biblical generation) after Israel gained statehood. [97]
1988, Sep/Oct Edgar C. Whisenant Whisenant predicted in his book 88 Reasons Why the Rapture Could Be in 1988 that the Rapture of the Christian Church would occur between 11 and 13 September 1988. After his September predictions failed to come true, Whisenant revised his prediction date to October 3. [60][98]
1989, Sep 30 Edgar C. Whisenant After all his 1988 predictions failed to come true, Whisenant revised his prediction date to this day. [60]
1990, Apr 23 Elizabeth Clare Prophet Prophet predicted a nuclear war would start on this day, with the world ending 12 years later, leading her followers to stockpile a shelter with supplies and weapons. Later, after Prophet's prediction did not come to pass and she was diagnosed with epilepsy and Alzheimer's disease. [99][100]
1991 Louis Farrakhan The leader of the Nation of Islam declared that the Gulf War would be the "War of Armageddon which is the final war." [101]
1992, Sep 28 Rollen Stewart This born-again Christian predicted the Rapture would take place on this day. [102]
1992, Oct 28 Lee Jang Rim Rim, the leader of the Dami Mission in Seoul, predicted the Rapture on this day. South Korean officials took elaborate precautions against a mass suicide, posting 1,500 riot officers to monitor about a thousand followers who had gathered in the group's headquarters to await the Rapture. Their efforts were successful, although four group members had committed suicide in previous days. [103]
1993 David Berg Berg predicted the tribulation would start in 1989 and that the Second Coming would take place in 1993. [104]
1994, May 2 Neal Chase This Bahá'í sect leader predicted that New York would be destroyed by a nuclear bomb on March 23, 1994, and the Battle of Armageddon would take place 40 days later. [105]
1994, Sep/Oct Harold Camping Camping predicted the Rapture would occur on September 6, 1994. When it failed to occur he revised the date to September 29 and then to October 2. [106][107]
1995, Mar 31 Harold Camping Camping's fourth predicted date for the end. This would be Camping's last prediction until 2011. [107]
1996, Dec 17 Sheldon Nidle Famed psychic Sheldon Nidle predicted that the world would end on this date, with the arrival of millions of space ships. [108]
1997, Mar 26 Marshall Applewhite Applewhite, leader of the Heaven's Gate cult, claimed that a spacecraft was trailing the Comet Hale-Bopp and argued that suicide was "the only way to evacuate this Earth" so that the cult members' souls could board the supposed craft and be taken to another "level of existence above human". Applewhite and 38 of his followers committed mass suicide. [109]
1997, Oct 23 James Ussher This 17th Century Irish Archbishop predicted this date to be 6000 years since Creation, and therefore the end of the world. [110]
1998, Mar 31 Hon-Ming Chen Hon-Ming Chen, leader of the Taiwanese cult God's Salvation Church, or Chen Tao - "The True Way" - claimed that God would come to Earth in a flying saucer at 10:00 am on this date. Moreover, God would have the same physical appearance as Chen himself. On March 25, God was to appear on Channel 18 on every TV set in the US. Chen chose to base his cult in Garland, Texas, because he thought it sounded like "God's Land." [111]
1999 Seventh-day Adventists Some literature distributed by Seventh Day Adventists predicted the end in this year. [112]
Charles Berlitz This linguist predicted the end would occur in this year. He did not predict how it would occur, stating it may involve nuclear devastation, asteroid impact, pole shift or other earth changes. [113]
1999, Jul Nostradamus A prediction attributed to Nostradamus stating the "King of Terror" would come from the sky in "1999 and seven months" led to fears of the end. [114]
1999, Aug 18 The Amazing Criswell The predicted date of the end of the world, according to this psychic well known for false predictions. [115]
1999, Dec 31 Hon-Ming Chen Hon-Ming Chen's cult God's Salvation Church, now relocated to upstate New York, preached that a nuclear holocaust would destroy Europe and Asia sometime between October 1 and December 31, 1999. [116]
'Before' 2000 Hal Lindsey After his 1980's predictions failed to come true, Lindsay published the book Planet Earth 2000 A.D. in 1994, which stated that Christians should not plan to still be on earth by the year 2000. [117]
James Gordon Lindsay This preacher predicted the tribulation would begin before the year 2000. [118]
Texe Marrs This conspiracy theorist stated that the last days could "wrap up by the year 2000." [119]
Timothy Dwight IV This President of Yale University foresaw the Millennium starting by 2000. [120]
Jehovah's Witnesses In 1984 the Jehovah's Witnesses stated the end would be before the end of the 20th century. [121]
2000 - c. Peter Olivi This 13th century theologian wrote that the Antichrist would come to power between 1300 and 1340, and the Last Judgement would take place around 2000. [122]
2000 Mormons The beginning of Christ's Millennium according to some Mormon literature, such as the publication Watch and Be Ready: Preparing for the Second Coming of the Lord. The New Jerusalem would descend from the heavens, landing in Independence, Missouri. [123]
Helena Blavatsky The founder of Theosophy foresaw the end of the world in this year. [124]
Isaac Newton Newton predicted that Christ's Millennium would begin in the year 2000 in his book Observations upon the Prophecies of Daniel, and the Apocalypse of St. John. [125]
Ruth Montgomery This self-described Christian psychic predicted the Earth's axis would shift and the Antichrist would reveal himself in this year. [126]
Edgar Cayce This psychic predicted the Second Coming would occur this year. [127]
Sun Myung Moon The founder of the Unification Church predicted the Kingdom of Heaven would be established in this year. [128]
Ed Dobson This pastor predicted the end would occur in his book The End: Why Jesus Could Return by A.D. 2000. [129]
Lester Sumrall This minister predicted the end in his book I Predict 2000. [130]
Jonathan Edwards This 18th century preacher predicted that Christ's thousand-year reign would begin in this year. [131]
2000, Jan 1 Various Predictions of a Y2K computer bug were to crash many computers and would malfunction causing major catastrophes worldwide and that society would cease to function. Year 2000 problem
Credonia Mwerinde, Joseph Kibweteere An estimated 778 followers of this Ugandan religious movement perished in a devastating fire and a series of poisonings and killings that were either a group suicide or an orchestrated mass murder by group leaders after their predictions of the apocalypse failed to come about. [132]
Jerry Falwell Falwell foresaw God pouring out his judgement on the world on this day. [133]
Tim LaHaye, Jerry B. Jenkins These Christian authors stated the Y2K bug would trigger global economic chaos, which the Antichrist would use to rise to power. As the date approached however they changed their minds. [134]
2000, April 6 James Harmston The leader of the True and Living Church of Jesus Christ of Saints of the Last Days predicted the Second Coming of Christ would occur on this day. [135]
2000, May 5 Nuwaubian Nation This movement claimed that the planetary lineup would cause a "star holocaust," pulling the planets toward the sun on this day. [136]
2000, Oct 9 Grant Jeffrey This bible teacher suggested this date as the "probable termination point for the 'last days.'" [137]
2001 Tynetta Muhammad This columnist for the Nation of Islam predicted the end would occur in this year. [138]
2003, May Nancy Lieder Lieder originally predicted the date for the Nibiru collision as May 2003. According to her website, aliens in the Zeta Reticuli star system told her through messages via a brain implant of a planet which would enter our solar system and cause a pole shift on earth that would destroy most of humanity. [139]
2003, Nov 29 Aum Shinrikyo This Japanese cult predicted the world would be destroyed by a nuclear war between October 30 and November 29, 2003. [140]
2007, Apr 29 Pat Robertson In his 1990 book The New Millennium, Robertson suggests this date as the day of Earth's destruction. [141]
2010 Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn This magic order predicted the world would end in this year. [142]
2011, May 21 Harold Camping Camping predicted that the Rapture and devastating earthquakes would occur on May 21, 2011 with God taking approximately 3% of the world's population into Heaven, and that the end of the world would occur five months later on October 21. [143]
2011, Aug–Oct Various There were fears amongst the public that Comet Elenin travelling almost directly between Earth and the Sun would cause disturbances to the Earth's crust, causing massive earthquakes and tidal waves. Others predicted that Elenin would collide with Earth on October 16. Scientists tried to calm fears by stating that none of these events were possible. [144]
2011, Sep 29 Ronald Weinland Ronald Weinland stated Jesus Christ would return on this day. He prophesied nuclear explosions in U.S. port cities by July of 2008 as the blowing of the Second Trumpet of Revelation. He later changed the date for the return of Jesus Christ to May 27, 2012. [145]
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2011, Oct 21 Harold Camping When his original date failed to come about, Camping revised his prediction and said that on May 21, a "Spiritual Judgment" took place, and that both the physical Rapture and the end of the world would occur on October 21, 2011. [143]
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Seventh-day Adventists, and I'm from the church, I cant remember anything like that in 1999, and I been in the church for over 20 years.

Like most time settings, I personally think its wishywashy.
There will be more over my lifetime too, come and go and dates come and go, and I think then we all get tired of it by the time I pass away. in 50 or so years time.

People have made more money on this subject with books than I care to admit, every decade people make up so much crap about this, to a point it does not interest me anymore.

People have became very obbsessed with the Apocalypse, it simply drains you to work it out, I have reached a point in my personal life to simply place it in the backburner.

I wouldn't say their unfit to raise a family to begin with.

However, (this is me being pretty prejudice in some ways) I'd say that a majority of lesbian families are probably better off financially.

I say this because it's obvious they can't reproduce a child on their own. So they have to either adopt, or go the artificial insemination route. Both of which require some financial means.

Why does finance matter? Well, for one, I'd say if you look at better off families, abuse is probably a lot less pronounced. Also, with adoption/foster care you have to be evaluated proving you would be a suitable parent.

I mean most people that adopt are wanting to take good care of a child and most of the time their taking in a kid that has had a tough life and might have already been abused so why would they want to abuse them?

Ok...so we've children Lesbian households. Just for mischief can I say that the child has no genetic link to either parent?

Coz then I can flip the coin and say there are going to be children with three genetic parents.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2089146/Children-genes-parents-born-years-thanks-new-IVF-technique.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

We know the bible is right because Jesus Christ gave himself up to crucifixion.

Genetic parents? Is that the same as biological parents? There can't be more than two.

In your own words ( don't bother posting all the text in the bible that will fit into the window) but in your own words what is the bible right about ? Two reasons. one everythingthe bible says aboutthis topic has been posted .
2, no one reads three or four bible page pots .

Nope, now there can be three. Read the link.

I see. That's pretty interesting.

I completely misunderstood you the first time.

I've given it its own thread.

"Lesbian households produce a child abuse rate of 0%"?

I remember when I was at university studying teaching, we watched a G&L propaganda film on how good they were as parents. I remember being both angry and disgusted and starting a bit of a fight in class actually, about the fact that one lesbian couple were busily grooming their little girl to become a lesbian. The fact that they blatantly did it whilst on film, made it pretty clear that this was the norm for the poor girl in the 'documentary'.

If that had been old men grooming a young boy for gay sex, it would have resulted in jail time, as it should.

Thus, using the type of sampling herein, and extrapolating from there to the thread title, I can rightly say, "Lesbian couples produce 100% child abuse rate" and be fairly comfortable with it.