@alk1975 Said
Bull s***. The cheater does have to take responsibility, and I always always always require that the cheater take that responsibility when I am counseling couples regarding affairs. Therapy cannot and will not move forward if it is not so. HOWEVER, it also will NOT move forward if the "victim" does not take some responsibility for the collusion involved in the affair. It is always there. And they are not innocent where the affair is concerned most of the time.
Ok, to quote you "bull s***". People who cheat do so because it is what they decide. They are freely making that choice. No one is forcing them to cheat. If they feel they are not getting what they need form the relationship then they have a number of choices. First up they can simply leave and seek what they feel is missing elsewhere. Secondly they can simply remain within the relationship and accept that they will not necessarily have all of their 'needs' met, or thirdly they can discuss with their partner what their concerns are. How they feel and what they think is missing. Depending on their partners reactio they can then as a couple choose to work on the relationship or they can end the relationship. But cheaters dont do this. They take the selfish and gutless way out and attempt to have it both ways. They make decisions based purely on what they think will most benefit them and they either dont care or dont even consider how their actions may impact upon others.
People who cheat always do so of their own free wil. They are never forced to cheat, they choose to cheat so so say that anyone else ought to take any ofd the responsibility for their actions, their decisions is bull s***. it really is.
By the way, to use the word "collusion" is, to use your words "bull s***".