"Social Justice"

@shinobinoz Said

That is good. But there still exist some potential problems there. Standardized testing is not generally fair to certain minorities & cultures.

I heard it explained best on a program on NPR. I don't recall the city (someone know this story?) Baltimore maybe? Anyway he was forced to use standardized testing as police chief in hiring cadets. What he ended up with was a nearly all white force. There were plenty of problems with the different communities & some of the highest scoring candidates turned out to be some of the worst officers. When he looked at other types of testing he found plenty of minority candidates who ended up being his best officers.

His moral?
He was being forced to choose a football team of either all fast tall receiver types or all heavy muscular big linemen when what worked best was a combination of talents and world-views.

@shinobinoz Said

*not what social justice is* ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You get funny when you get confused!

@ThePainefulTruth Said

You said sj is not about outcomes the process. I asked, a process to do what? You ignored the question--yet I'M the one who's confused.

And before we can decide on the details of what we're looking for, we need to find the goal. Otherwise some just cast around while others make stuff up to suit themselves.

@ThePainefulTruth Said

So, because the Left decides to make equal opportunity = equal outcome, that settles it, no matter how bastardized it makes any concept of justice?

Quote:

Don't remember it, but sometimes I have no alternative but to bail due to the intransigence of the blind faith of who I'm talking to. Tell me you're not familiar with that.

@nooneinparticular Said
And I suspect that our definition of 'equal outcome' is different too...

@ThePainefulTruth Said

Well I've asked and if it's out there, I missed it.

@EtoTheeyepipower Said

My Chinese boyfriend has a story about Social Justice.

The story is about a Monk, Bu Tai Ming, who walked along the Silk Road, through the Taklimakan Desert and Afghanistan, across Iran and Iraq, to Palestine. When he arrived at the Mediterranean Sea, he realized that he had transported an ant from China to the Middle East. He immediately returned to China, and he set the ant free.

So I asked, "Is social justice concern for fellow creatures?"

My boyfriend said, "Yes, but Bu Tai Ming stepped on a thousand ants on his way back to China."

@shinobinoz Said

Anyone else recognize the coincidence of the writing style of EtoTheeyepipower with that of a previous TFS poster?

@shinobinoz Said

Anyone else recognize the coincidence of the writing style of EtoTheeyepipower with that of a previous TFS poster?