Jesus Christ.

These topics never fare well in a forum, but i'm going to have a shot anyhow, possibly i'm a glutten for punishment

It's generally accepted that Jesus Christ did in fact exist.

There's plenty of debate about details, when he was born, what he actually did, whether he claimed to be the Messiah or not and then of course there's his 'ressurection' which pretty well destroys any chance he had of being taken seriously in todays world.

Everything we know of him today is shrouded in religious jargon and actual facts are impossible to find, given the people who wrote his history.

I think he was most likely just an every day guy who saw the corruption in the religion of his day and sought to bring people back to the 'truth' of God.
Like Martin Luther perhaps?

Thoughts?

haha, im getting this shirt!

You don't want to talk about the Messiah wiv me?

Not even to call me loony?

"he's not the messiah , he's a very naughty boy"

Ah your all mean!!

Have you not seen Passions of the Christ!

He died a horrible death.. To save us from our sins!

Where's crazy Christian man when I need him?

I don't get this tshirt? Am i just being daft? Omg dont answer that.

Where is HilmDan when you need him!?

get it now ?

Dan is not crazy!

Im thinkin of that other one.. Umm, its like Arcades but is not..

And we will be in trouble for talking about ppl not posting in a thread, SHHHHHH!

Dan is too crazy! Well maybe not in the way you are thinking! i say this in friendship, I'm not pickin on him in a bad way.

LOL you are thinking of Aquine! Not talkin bad about him either. I just know he is fond of Jesus.

Probably. Ancient historians seem to agree that Jesus existed, but thats as far as they seem willing to go.

If we look at all religions with messiahs respectfully, we notice that all of them, or at least most of them, seem to be professed as a diety on earth, with inhuman powers. Islam, Hinduism, Judaism, Catholics and most of their denominations seem to fall within this catagory.

Now why is that?

Why do there seem to be so many stories of people performing miracles all over the world?

There are numerous interpretations, from 'they all worshipped the same god by different names and images' to 'aliens posing as humans used alien tech to do these miracles' to 'religons exagerated, embelished, and romanticised their respective stories to include ideas of the unreal to gain supporters'. All are equally valid, since evidence exists for none of them, aside from written accounts.

But whenever you hear a person say they 'just know' or they attribute the curing of some malidy or solving of some problem to a diety, just keep in mind the placebo effect. It can work wonders on the human psyche.

This isn't meant as a bash against religion, but consider all sides of the discussion.

dupe

I also think the most historical event in the NT was the "cleansing" of the Temple. But Jesus would have cleansed it with a force superior to the Temple Guards (just as Joshua fought the battle of Jerico), and likely held it for the entire day. But God didn't respond to Jesus' supreme demonstration of faith and re-occupy the Temple as Jesus assumed would happen. Many of his followers then deserted or turned on him, and the priesthood then had it pretty easy getting the Romans to crucify him for insurrection.

Gives a new context to, "My God, my God, why hasth thou forsaken me."