American people:TIME TO DECLARE OUR INDEPENDENCE FROM THE U.N.

First, laborers work harder than actors do yet earn a hell of a lot less. How is that fair? How is it fair that the movie industry can pay people who can act a little, or just look good, tons of money when the people who build the houses we all live in get paid s***? What part of that is fair? If hard work equals good money, then the entertainment industry is the opposite of that.

Also, the economy blows. There are a lot of people out there who can work and are willing to do so but cannot get jobs. Why? It is because they are lazy and not willing to work? No. It's because there simply are not enough jobs to be done. Hence, since the government, the institution which says that you must have a job in order to make money, cannot supply jobs, then why would the government not be the one to supply money to the people who cannot work?

A lack of jobs might as well be a disability.

Because an actor, like tom cruise for example can earn the movie studio millions by just being in the movie. People PAY to see him. If people like the actor then people will PAY to go see him. So it's perfectly fair he gets paid a good chunk of the revenue he generates. Doesn't matter if he can act or not.

Why do laborers get paid less? Because it doesn't take much skill to do the job. Skill = money.
Plus one laborer alone does not generate alot of revenue for wahtever company they are working for. And a laborer can easily be replaced without loss of money to said company.
By your line of reasoning why not pay a contruction worker the salary of a doctor?
no it doesn't. 9 straight quarters of growth above 3% is good plus unemployment is below 5%, How does that blow? Lack of jobs is silly. There is work everywhere to be done but you get people who won't do some jobs because they think it's beneath them to do it.

The UN tries to do things but countries just IGNORE it. The war against Iraq was against UN regulations but it happened anyway. Countries just don?t care about it anymore it seems. At least the powerful countries (USA). Also I?m assuming that by American people you mean citizens of the US? Your posts seem to indicate that. However the US citizens are only a fraction of the people of America.

What about Australia? UK? Scandanavia? hmmm? I think there are other countries with better freedoms than USA...

Just my opinion of course...

My $0.02

How is providing sufficient jobs for a countries citizens bad?

Placing one person above millions is just stupid.

Definetly agree with this, I?m generally against big bussines, they?ve done so much harm to the world using legal lopeholes and stuff.

Agree with this one too, if there?s a normal tax for citizens there should be a larger tax for companies depending on sizes and how much money they make. If nothing else will convince you of this just think of how much money you would save in taxes if companies paid even a measly 1% of their income!


Thats basically welfare and social security, those are good things, right?

The abolition of interest on mortage I think would be a good thing, theres people that will leave debt to their children becouse of that.

First part is just common sense, countries agricultural practices should benefit that country, they should produce what they need. Rent would be unnecesary if property was owned by the governemnt.

Imagine if Einstein or Tomas Edison had come from poor families, would that still have made all their great discoveries and inventions? Imagine how many geniuses have been born in poverty and died in poverty becouse of a lack of chance of education.

Anyone see anything wrong with this? My school already has obligatory P.E, I?m assuming most do. Providing adequate care for pregnant woman is a good idea, right? Also stopping child labour, unless people like sweat shops?

Once more placing one person?s safety above the safety of many is pointless. We are to obsesed with consumer goods, I am to but that doesn?t mean I have to like it.


I have to say I agree with all of these, this does NOT mean that I agree with any of the later things Hitler did. Many people might read the name Hitler, or Socialist and immediatley assume that anything they read would be horrible ideas.

What do you think is more important though, watching a movie or having a house to sleep in? Their job is not as easy as you might think, they have to work very long hours with very little pay, be looked down upon by much of society, ussualy have to retire early due to injuries. Would you know how to make a house? Set foundations?


So called rich? You don?t consider Tom Cruise or other actors to be rich? you must be rolling in dough . There are a few that had the choice to go to school, but most of those who don?t don?t becouse they need to work to feed their familys. This just keeps the cycle of povery going. Parents have to drop out of school to get enough money for food, so do their kids and their kids... Since they never got to finish high school, let alone university with its HIGH fees they can only get low paying jobs. I do agree with you however that if people don?t even look for a job or turn down a job they should not recieve money unless they are disabled/elderly, etc.

The UN is a pathetic organisations controlled by the likes of Russia, France and China. They are dressed up as peace merchants yet have the plan of controlling the world in a one government solution. Them!

Time the western allies and stood together strong as one people yet different nations.

The UN does nothing to bring peace anyway. Everytime a bullet passes over their heads, they run away like the cowards they are.

Not my problem. They made the choice of having kids before they can take care of them? Why is it fair that I pay for their mistakes?
So having the government own and run everything is going to change it for the better how?
That's not what that passage means.

Irrelevant. They don't generate the revenue so it would be financial suicide to pay them more than they are worth. I never said they were not rich. so what if they are? They earned it.
That's no excuse. People with children finish school all of the time. Their are several in this forum doing that right now.

Socialism is nothing but thievery. Punish those who work for what they earn and give it to those who didn't earn it.

When you work your tail off in school, get a good career and see a huge chunk of money taken out your paycheck and given to joe down the street who goofed off and never took school seriously, you'll see how foolish socialism is.

The UN needs some fixing no doubt. However, the world is getting too small and there needs to be a world organization that can mediate problems. The UN is still a good idea. The resources of the world are not limitless and there needs to be cooperation among nations if we are to survive. A revived UN could help.

The U.N. is a sick festering animal that needs to be shot.

So when it is shot, then what. Do we let the WTO and the WB have it's way? How do we bring disagreements to a transparent open venue and discuss the issues? What do you do? Before you replace a problem it is wise to have the solution in place first.

reiko u oviubsly know nothing of socialism, socialism is the most wide ranging of all political philsphys it can broadly be divided in to revolutionary socialism evolutionary socialism ( like the british labour party" it believes that human work better and operate better in cooperative social groups and believes that harmonious collaborative action is more efficent than is selfish. they believe that true freedom,democracy and social harmony is based on eqaulity of both opportunity and outcome.... socialism means eqaulity of people power as well as of wealth rights and opportunities. it is true democracy, u talk about american wanting to spread democracy around the world well i think its dangerous cause america is not a democracy just as china is not comunist. its laughable if u really think america embaraces true demo-kratis cuz if it did it would seize to be a super power. lmao bill gates is worth more than 30 percent of america im not sure if thats the exact number it could be more.


now about the UN,
firstly u talk about the voting system within the UN . comeon do u expect a world wide vote on the leader of the un? how messsy woudl that be? what kind of system would u use? PR first past teh post etc its almost an impossible task it makes sence that the member states the representives indirectly voted by the public of the member states get the vote.

u talk about coruption? you will find coruption anywhere u find a concentration of power, e.g america u cant avoid it u found sex scandals(clinton) u found voting scandals ( florida bush v algore ) u found buisness scandals(bush+binladen family) , most recently u find bushs top advisors in coruption etc so i know wat we can do lets leave the job to america? and close the un? u ignore almost everything that the un has done sucesfuly the amount of aid missions etc a perfect example is iraq , saddam would not let in american weapon inspectors or british etc but they came to acept a un weapons inspection team could be allowed and so the un was allowed several times the same case in iran. the amount of intervention in the many civil wars in africa is enourmous, in wich they have saved thousands of lives.

now again lets not forget who set up the league of nations and the UN yep our gd freind america . lol

now closing down the un and abandoning it will mean no oraganisation in which countrys can comunicate etc if anything it gives sence of coperation between countrys all these scandals are simply private scandals e.g kofi anuns son etc these have no effect on the gd job they do around the world.

now tell me there useless i do believe there is alot of refrom needed in the un but i dnt think because its not a perfection it shoudl be shut down i believe reform is the way forward maybe some more decentralisation of power in which other bodies can be created to check and balance the power and make sure coruption is not present in the organisation.

I agree whole heartedly.

Strong western nations need to form their own organisation. The UN is pathetic. So many times they round up those being executed into a hall saying, come here, we will protect you. Then, as soon as the hunters get close, the UN runs away.

Who remembers France rescuing their dogs yet leaving the Tutu's in a hall to be executed?

The UN is controlled by Russia, France and China. We aren't going to get much positive coming from them.

Look at them...allows China to tell the west they have poor records in humanity...puts Gadafi in charge of the anti terror lot. Wow, speaks volumns itself.

What sucks is that I can see the UN building from my neighborhood. They should turn it into low rent housing lol