Jesus Christ

the connection is that i am nothing more than a medium for the energy to pass thru, i in essence move aside and let the spirit do its work...healing can be given in many forms and absent healing is one of them, however my personal opinion is that laying on of hands is more effective

no that is a reason that you would use... i have no need for a nobel prize or for any million dollars that some millionaire has offered, anyone who does has no place in what we do

you understand that i said one particular side was warmer rite? or have you ignored that part? i didn't say that she was warmer, i said that she felt heat from a particular place in the room...where i was sitting

and just because we all agree that it works, holds no weight when you trust people to be honest and tell everyone what they feel, if she felt heat from my direction then she was telling the truth.

i have read the comments about jesus. i have no doubt that jesus was born 2,000 yrs ago and that he was the messiah the son of God. the whole thing a mystery and a wonderful one.i am a practising catholic and have never doubted. choira 12

well for one heat isn't felt uniformly all over your body,
and i already have explained it, please read my posts.



that could of course be wrong of course but it is an explanation outside of the 'paranormal' which i'm sure you agree should be investigated and eliminated first, we don't see ice melt and assume its ice melting faeries.

and if you don't want a million dollars then i'm sure a charity could do with it, by not getting it when you very much can (if you can do what you claim) you'd be doing a great disservice to those you would need it.
'Every man is guilty of all the good he did not do' -Voltaire.

I mistook what you meant when you said that you couldnt handle the entergy.... If it passes through you.... would you not be affected? like a wire carrying high voltage heats up?

Empirical truth is often short of absolute because of perspective. Hence what we experience, though valid can still be in error because of our perspective.

the only affect i feel as i stated previously is that i can feel the energy pass thru me, imagaine you are laid down in the sea, and you can feel the waves pass over you...that is what i feel..but the energy moves out of my hands and into the patient ahead of me

yeah the waves pass over you not through you the analogy is lacking

does it have to come out of your hands?
could it come out of your feet if you wanted?
or your head? or you arse?

in all seriousness, what are the rules for this, it seems to me there's a lot of ceremony involved that attempts to legitimize the act, but is there any real reason you couldn't lay your arse over someone to heal them?

yes i agree it is an explanation outside of the paranormal, but there is always that in every aspect of the paranormal, and with the interest you seem to hold in this subject i would have thought that by now you might have found that which cannot be explained..... as there is alot of it out there

and in regards to the charity bit..yes there might be charities that can use it..but that is not my responsibility... might seem harsh but i can honestly say that i don't care... if others see fit to donate to charity then go for it.. i will donate if i see reason too, as i have in the past... but i have no need to prove anythin just to get money, for me or for any charity

how does there seem alot of ceremony? exactly? there is no real reason you can't use your backside...but why would you want too? hands are there to touch and feel... your example is descending into silliness again

that is harsh...i'd do a lot more than that to help the world.

but anyway,
being 'unexplained' does not mean it is paranormal, it simply means we don't know, when we run out of ways to explain a thing that doesn't mean we can make up an explanation.

i've found when things seem unexplainable the explanation turns out to be a lot less fantastical than people assume.
like crop circles, no aliens, just people with string and a piece of board.

in regard what you claim though that certainly isn't 'unknown' its actually highly testable, testing whether things can cure illnesses is a very important part of medicine, its how we know certain drugs work, this is done because anecdotes and simple testimony has been shown to be unreliable.
faith healing has been tested like this a lot more than spiritualists like to think about, they have consistently failed.

of course, you might be different, but why should we think so?

Jesus of Nazareth was doubtlessly a real historical figure, a man who radically transformed Judaism and gave birth to its Christian branch (probably unwittingly - Peter did most of the work). However, the Jesus of the Christian and Islamic tradition is primarily an invented character whose exploits are a badly inflated version of the truth. Like you say, the idea of a messiah is one which is prevalent in many mythical traditions and was applied rigorously to Jesus' life after his death (yes, contrary to the beliefs of many people he is in fact dead, and there is nothing to suggest otherwise apart from the biased testimony of an ancient text).

ceremony like you all using your hands,
being around her in a circle, having the person lay down.

could you just see a guy in front of you on the bus and without him knowing put your hands up behind him and heal say his sore throat or headache?

Just thaught id mention this point! The biggest thing of all, the thing that makes people put a question where God made a full stop... Is the fact that people are blinded by their sins, they live in darkness... they dont see all the truth as christians who walks the path of light! With time, iv realized... If u actually go into it, comit to it, believe everything the bible says and by that believe in Jesus and have a relationship with him... everything will be come clearer and u will c and be amazed of what u c now that u couldnt in the past, because in the past that what was in darkness is now visable by the light! (if u understand this, follow this and pass this on, u will also notice u neva question anything again! Everything makes sence, eveything becomes clear)

sorry 4 my english, bit rusty!