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chaski On about 6 hours ago
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#1New Post! Sep 14, 2021 @ 03:05:50
What does the Democratic Party stand for?

Hmmmm.....

Not sure.

Some are center left.... some are far left... some are (seemingly) about only one or two special interests....

They are not (at least not always) about each other.

So... what are they for?

(Try 'your' best to be honest)
chaski On about 6 hours ago
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#2New Post! Sep 14, 2021 @ 03:25:55
I got my university degree in political science many many years ago.

I have paid attention and 'studied' political science ever since.

Republicans have typically had a set 'platform'.... I was/am a Reagan era Republican... I get/got the GOP platform until Trump...

>>> But this thread is not about the Republicans <<<

In my years the Dems have presented as, mostly, diffuse and often confused... not focused.

Other times they have focused on some few specific themes... but still the don't stick together...

Or maybe I am wrong.
nooneinparticular On March 16, 2023




, Hawaii
#3New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 02:03:54
The Democrat Party, unlike the Republican one, is made up of very disparate interests, that don't always line up with each other. The Republicans have stabilizing forces within their party that revolve around things like trusting the invisible hand of the market and religion that the Democrat Party haven't really successfully replicated yet.

The conversation around big media illustrates this well. When talking about the Republican side of the conversation, really only OAN, Infowars, and Fox seem to come up. When talking of the Democrat side, however, people end up talking about the 'mainstream media' (aka almost the entire field of nationally recognized news). There is a focus of message that comes from limiting yourself to relatively few sources that doesn't happen when talking about almost an entire industry. Of course, that's not to say that Republicans messaging works and Democrats doesn't because of the amount of voices contributing to that message, but it does illustrate, I feel, how disparate the Democrats message is compared to Republicans.

Some of that unfocused messaging is probably due to policy, (arguing for a by-gone era or a return to something past is certainly a more concrete picture than attempting to actively and dynamically create a vision for the future in the present), while some is perhaps due to the big tent nature of the Democrat Party (LGBTQ+, Green, 'socialism', Unions, and many more. Its a big tent that requires juggling many hats at once. Whereas the Republicans can just basically invoke God and say 'business tax cuts' and pretty much everyone is on the same page.

I don't know if I'd say that the Democrats message is inherently 'diffuse, often confused, and unfocused', but it is pretty hard to argue that it isn't if compared relatively to the Republicans.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#4New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 02:50:17
@nooneinparticular Said

The Democrat Party, unlike the Republican one, is made up of very disparate interests, that don't always line up with each other. The Republicans have stabilizing forces within their party that revolve around things like trusting the invisible hand of the market and religion that the Democrat Party haven't really successfully replicated yet.


I agree in principle with what you are saying. I believe this is by design. The Republican party from the 1970s on have been goosestepping in time with the Neo Con drumbeat. Almost as if fascists were running the faction. The bad economic policies they espoused (lured to by greed in some cases) has set up a political environment ripe for the rise of socialism.

The Neo Cons fell out of favor with some Republicans which gave birth to the Tea Partiers and the Big T. They sabotaged their own anti-neo con stance by acting like idiots. I believe this was also intentional; to push right wingers back to the Neo-Cons.

The loss of Neo Con leadership has left the right with an identity crisis. Neo Con and Republican became synonymous due to their decades of domination over the party.

Fact is there are multiple types of Conservatives. According to the New York Times 5 factions have recently emerged from the muck.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#5New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 02:59:58
The Democratic Party does have a larger number of and more disparate factions. This makes it much more difficult to control as nooneinparticular pointed out. Could this have been exploited by people attempting to sabotage the party? Could there be people intentionally misleading factions of the party to keep it weak?

The Dems cave to Republican interests too often. Socialist forces attempting to create an environment ripe for exploitation do not want Democrats fixing the economy or any of the social issues we face, that would ruin it.
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#6New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 04:07:22
Disclaimer: I’m not a Democrat.

But generally speaking…

A belief that the healthiest economy is one that feeds and comes from the middle class rather than the top percentiles. Therefore, they believe in greater taxation of the rich and large corporations and closing tax loopholes used by them, and greater breaks to the middle class and poor. Some on the right will call this approach socialism, although that is really a gross misrepresentation painted by the right to scare people away. Biden, Sanders, Warren, AOC, etc all believe in capitalism and have zero intention of doing away with it - what is needed for true socialism to occur.

A belief in greater regulation on large corporations and reducing their influence on politics.

A belief in a strengthening of the safety net for the middle and poor class, including, but not limited to, accessible and robust healthcare, family assistance, free and/or affordable education, and well-funded social security.

A belief in strengthening of unions for the working class as a means of ensuring better worker conditions and pay.

They usually are big on saving the environment.

Less spending on defense.

More welcoming to immigration and asylum seekers and forgiveness of illegals.

More spending on public education.

Greater gun restrictions.

Easier access to voting.

Pro-choice. LGBT rights.

Woke-ism.

Etc.

Some I am in agreement with, some I am not.
Na On February 27, 2024




, Florida
#7New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 07:20:38
"What does the Democratic Party stand for?

Answer:

The Democratic Party is only about power and control.

End thread.
chaski On about 6 hours ago
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#8New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 15:43:42
@Na Said

"What does the Republican Party stand for?

Answer:

The Republican Party is only about power and control.

End thread.






We have a thread on the republican party…

Please do try to pay attention, focus and stay on topic… at least for once.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#9New Post! Oct 14, 2021 @ 02:48:40
@Leon Said

Disclaimer: I’m not a Democrat.

But generally speaking…

A belief that the healthiest economy is one that feeds and comes from the middle class rather than the top percentiles. Therefore, they believe in greater taxation of the rich and large corporations and closing tax loopholes used by them, and greater breaks to the middle class and poor. Some on the right will call this approach socialism, although that is really a gross misrepresentation painted by the right to scare people away. Biden, Sanders, Warren, AOC, etc all believe in capitalism and have zero intention of doing away with it - what is needed for true socialism to occur.

A belief in greater regulation on large corporations and reducing their influence on politics.

A belief in a strengthening of the safety net for the middle and poor class, including, but not limited to, accessible and robust healthcare, family assistance, free and/or affordable education, and well-funded social security.

A belief in strengthening of unions for the working class as a means of ensuring better worker conditions and pay.

They usually are big on saving the environment.

Less spending on defense.

More welcoming to immigration and asylum seekers and forgiveness of illegals.

More spending on public education.

Greater gun restrictions.

Easier access to voting.

Pro-choice. LGBT rights.

Woke-ism.

Etc.

Some I am in agreement with, some I am not.


What the real socialists intend to make happen is a new party or newer faction to take over the country. This take over could be through violence but more likely through political maneuvering. Then they will consolidate control by eliminating those they deem dangerous to their continued rule. The other parties will be banned. Religion will be criminalized and replaced by their quasi psychology. They will nationalize all major industries particularly news and communication.
Ratty On November 08, 2021




So Cal, California
#10New Post! Nov 06, 2021 @ 21:45:17
I think today's dems are really into big government. Life of Julia type of government.

Whether that is good or bad or not, it is what it is.
mrmhead On about 19 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#11New Post! Nov 07, 2021 @ 00:24:50
@Ratty Said

I think today's dems are really into big government. Life of Julia type of government.

Whether that is good or bad or not, it is what it is.



Well, if Big Business has lead us to this ...
Darkman666 On about 18 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#12New Post! Nov 07, 2021 @ 01:13:27
@mrmhead Said

Well, if Big Business has lead us to this ...



then, small businesses has lead us to small toliets!
Ratty On November 08, 2021




So Cal, California
#13New Post! Nov 07, 2021 @ 03:18:16
@mrmhead Said

Well, if Big Business has lead us to this ...

Then what....
mrmhead On about 19 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#14New Post! Nov 07, 2021 @ 13:58:03
@Ratty Said

Then what....


Then maybe big gov't can straighten it out.

I don't see Amazon repairing roads and bridges, even though their business is highly dependent on them.

Cable/internet companies are just - what is it called - skimming the cream? - just building out or their networks in what is considered high density / profitable areas.

Maybe they can stick a finger in the other eye of the obstructionists and call the infrastructure bill Bidenworks.

So we would have Obamacare and Bidenworks!

How many elections will the GOPers need to steal before they can reverse both of those?
4d4m On December 23, 2022




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#15New Post! Nov 08, 2021 @ 19:06:02
Either way the answer is not to have big business to come under the direct control of the federal government (socialism). At least as it is power is more dispersed. Better would be diligent regulation without overstep.

If a company has a monopoly or is too big to fail; it is too big to exist. It must be broken down like Standard Oil to stimulate competition and a healthy economy.
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