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chaski 4 minutes ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#1New Post! Sep 14, 2021 @ 03:05:50
What does the Democratic Party stand for?

Hmmmm.....

Not sure.

Some are center left.... some are far left... some are (seemingly) about only one or two special interests....

They are not (at least not always) about each other.

So... what are they for?

(Try 'your' best to be honest)
chaski 4 minutes ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#2New Post! Sep 14, 2021 @ 03:25:55
I got my university degree in political science many many years ago.

I have paid attention and 'studied' political science ever since.

Republicans have typically had a set 'platform'.... I was/am a Reagan era Republican... I get/got the GOP platform until Trump...

>>> But this thread is not about the Republicans <<<

In my years the Dems have presented as, mostly, diffuse and often confused... not focused.

Other times they have focused on some few specific themes... but still the don't stick together...

Or maybe I am wrong.
nooneinparticular On September 30, 2021




, Hawaii
#3New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 02:03:54
The Democrat Party, unlike the Republican one, is made up of very disparate interests, that don't always line up with each other. The Republicans have stabilizing forces within their party that revolve around things like trusting the invisible hand of the market and religion that the Democrat Party haven't really successfully replicated yet.

The conversation around big media illustrates this well. When talking about the Republican side of the conversation, really only OAN, Infowars, and Fox seem to come up. When talking of the Democrat side, however, people end up talking about the 'mainstream media' (aka almost the entire field of nationally recognized news). There is a focus of message that comes from limiting yourself to relatively few sources that doesn't happen when talking about almost an entire industry. Of course, that's not to say that Republicans messaging works and Democrats doesn't because of the amount of voices contributing to that message, but it does illustrate, I feel, how disparate the Democrats message is compared to Republicans.

Some of that unfocused messaging is probably due to policy, (arguing for a by-gone era or a return to something past is certainly a more concrete picture than attempting to actively and dynamically create a vision for the future in the present), while some is perhaps due to the big tent nature of the Democrat Party (LGBTQ+, Green, 'socialism', Unions, and many more. Its a big tent that requires juggling many hats at once. Whereas the Republicans can just basically invoke God and say 'business tax cuts' and pretty much everyone is on the same page.

I don't know if I'd say that the Democrats message is inherently 'diffuse, often confused, and unfocused', but it is pretty hard to argue that it isn't if compared relatively to the Republicans.
4d4m On about 23 hours ago




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#4New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 02:50:17
@nooneinparticular Said

The Democrat Party, unlike the Republican one, is made up of very disparate interests, that don't always line up with each other. The Republicans have stabilizing forces within their party that revolve around things like trusting the invisible hand of the market and religion that the Democrat Party haven't really successfully replicated yet.


I agree in principle with what you are saying. I believe this is by design. The Republican party from the 1970s on have been goosestepping in time with the Neo Con drumbeat. Almost as if fascists were running the faction. The bad economic policies they espoused (lured to by greed in some cases) has set up a political environment ripe for the rise of socialism.

The Neo Cons fell out of favor with some Republicans which gave birth to the Tea Partiers and the Big T. They sabotaged their own anti-neo con stance by acting like idiots. I believe this was also intentional; to push right wingers back to the Neo-Cons.

The loss of Neo Con leadership has left the right with an identity crisis. Neo Con and Republican became synonymous due to their decades of domination over the party.

Fact is there are multiple types of Conservatives. According to the New York Times 5 factions have recently emerged from the muck.
4d4m On about 23 hours ago




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#5New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 02:59:58
The Democratic Party does have a larger number of and more disparate factions. This makes it much more difficult to control as nooneinparticular pointed out. Could this have been exploited by people attempting to sabotage the party? Could there be people intentionally misleading factions of the party to keep it weak?

The Dems cave to Republican interests too often. Socialist forces attempting to create an environment ripe for exploitation do not want Democrats fixing the economy or any of the social issues we face, that would ruin it.
Leon On October 22, 2021




San Diego, California
#6New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 04:07:22
Disclaimer: I’m not a Democrat.

But generally speaking…

A belief that the healthiest economy is one that feeds and comes from the middle class rather than the top percentiles. Therefore, they believe in greater taxation of the rich and large corporations and closing tax loopholes used by them, and greater breaks to the middle class and poor. Some on the right will call this approach socialism, although that is really a gross misrepresentation painted by the right to scare people away. Biden, Sanders, Warren, AOC, etc all believe in capitalism and have zero intention of doing away with it - what is needed for true socialism to occur.

A belief in greater regulation on large corporations and reducing their influence on politics.

A belief in a strengthening of the safety net for the middle and poor class, including, but not limited to, accessible and robust healthcare, family assistance, free and/or affordable education, and well-funded social security.

A belief in strengthening of unions for the working class as a means of ensuring better worker conditions and pay.

They usually are big on saving the environment.

Less spending on defense.

More welcoming to immigration and asylum seekers and forgiveness of illegals.

More spending on public education.

Greater gun restrictions.

Easier access to voting.

Pro-choice. LGBT rights.

Woke-ism.

Etc.

Some I am in agreement with, some I am not.
Na On about 6 hours ago




, Florida
#7New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 07:20:38
"What does the Democratic Party stand for?

Answer:

The Democratic Party is only about power and control.

End thread.
chaski 4 minutes ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#8New Post! Sep 18, 2021 @ 15:43:42
@Na Said

"What does the Republican Party stand for?

Answer:

The Republican Party is only about power and control.

End thread.






We have a thread on the republican party…

Please do try to pay attention, focus and stay on topic… at least for once.
4d4m On about 23 hours ago




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#9New Post! Oct 14, 2021 @ 02:48:40
@Leon Said

Disclaimer: I’m not a Democrat.

But generally speaking…

A belief that the healthiest economy is one that feeds and comes from the middle class rather than the top percentiles. Therefore, they believe in greater taxation of the rich and large corporations and closing tax loopholes used by them, and greater breaks to the middle class and poor. Some on the right will call this approach socialism, although that is really a gross misrepresentation painted by the right to scare people away. Biden, Sanders, Warren, AOC, etc all believe in capitalism and have zero intention of doing away with it - what is needed for true socialism to occur.

A belief in greater regulation on large corporations and reducing their influence on politics.

A belief in a strengthening of the safety net for the middle and poor class, including, but not limited to, accessible and robust healthcare, family assistance, free and/or affordable education, and well-funded social security.

A belief in strengthening of unions for the working class as a means of ensuring better worker conditions and pay.

They usually are big on saving the environment.

Less spending on defense.

More welcoming to immigration and asylum seekers and forgiveness of illegals.

More spending on public education.

Greater gun restrictions.

Easier access to voting.

Pro-choice. LGBT rights.

Woke-ism.

Etc.

Some I am in agreement with, some I am not.


What the real socialists intend to make happen is a new party or newer faction to take over the country. This take over could be through violence but more likely through political maneuvering. Then they will consolidate control by eliminating those they deem dangerous to their continued rule. The other parties will be banned. Religion will be criminalized and replaced by their quasi psychology. They will nationalize all major industries particularly news and communication.
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