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4d4m On June 12, 2021




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#1New Post! Apr 20, 2021 @ 19:33:21
The State has rested and Chauvin didn't testify so the jury has begun deliberations ( CNBC ). Some people are already protesting and the jury is still out ( WRAL ). New York, Miami, Minneapolis and other cities are bracing for riots. WOW.

What does everyone think? Is Chauvin guilty? If so, what is he guilty of? 1st degree murder, 2nd degree, manslaughter, negligent homicide?
mrmhead 7 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#2New Post! Apr 20, 2021 @ 20:45:34
I'd say negligent homicide at least.

Did they say that Chauvin and Floyd had a history?

Is there aggravated manslaughter?
He was mad but maybe didn't mean to kill him?

... It's just hard for me to think someone would purposely kill someone like that in front of others.

From his training and position, he should have been aware of potential consequences (death) of his actions.

And all that comes into how the lawyers play the game. Try to present options that don't fit the circumstances, so they have to say Not Guilty.

That happened in a case not too long ago. The way the judge instructed the jury, and the definitions of the charges, the jury knew the defendant was guilty of Something - just not specifically the charges they had to choose from.
4d4m On June 12, 2021




4dforum.org,
#3New Post! Apr 20, 2021 @ 22:11:53
I agree with your assessment. Even if he actually died from drug overdose the officer is still responsible for his safety once he had Floyd detained. If someone is saying "I can't breathe" the logical, human thing to do is take your knee off his neck and get him medical attention.

They did know each other; they were employed by the same night club as bouncers. If the prosecution could prove motive a 2nd degree or maybe even 1st degree conviction could have been obtained. I don't think the prosecution succeeded or even tried to do that.
4d4m On June 12, 2021




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#4New Post! Apr 21, 2021 @ 07:28:25
Guilty on three counts

2nd degree unintentional murder
2nd degree manslaughter
3rd degree murder
chaski On about 13 hours ago
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#5New Post! Apr 21, 2021 @ 16:30:13
Justice served.
4d4m On June 12, 2021




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#6New Post! Apr 21, 2021 @ 18:13:00
Yup, let's hope it sticks; there will be the inevitable appeal I'm sure.
Leon On June 04, 2021




San Diego, California
#7New Post! Apr 21, 2021 @ 20:33:59
@4d4m Said

Yup, let's hope it sticks; there will be the inevitable appeal I'm sure.


Yeah, thanks to Maxine Waters.

Seems to me people need to learn the art of keeping their mouth shut these days. Nancy Pelosi had a puzzling response as well.

They should have learned from the GOP plenty by now how much words can easily be used against them by the other side. Biden at least seems to have learned this.
mrmhead 7 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#8New Post! Apr 21, 2021 @ 23:28:02
@Leon Said
Nancy Pelosi had a puzzling response as well.



I thought that too
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