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Jennifer1984 On about 2 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#1096New Post! Apr 01, 2021 @ 12:57:53
Covid has absolutely nothing to do with Brexit, but if you want to make an issue of that, name me an EU country that has had 127'000 deaths and rising.

Trying to make capital out of Covid for the purposes of Brexit doesn't wash. Just another cheap and cheesy distraction attempt that doesn't work.

Jeezus.... you must be getting desperate
Jennifer1984 On about 2 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#1097New Post! Apr 01, 2021 @ 13:00:50
Getting back on topic after the fake Aussie's latest (poor) attempt to deflect attention away from the s***pile that is Brexit:




Brexit: Delivering............er....... none of it's promises.
mrmhead On 23 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#1098New Post! Apr 01, 2021 @ 20:52:37
@shadowen Said

Note - The UK’s vaccination rate is higher than the US, the EU, China, and India. In fact the UK’s vaccination rate is over three times faster than the rate for the EU27 countries.


I take vaccination rates at that scale with a grain of salt.

There are towns in Alaska that are 100% vaccinated, though, they only had to vax about 180 people .... (there was some news spot on it not too long ago)

Numbers, geography, logistics ... and unfortunately political attitudes play a part in these rates.
Jennifer1984 On about 2 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#1099New Post! Apr 02, 2021 @ 11:22:34
@mrmhead Said

I take vaccination rates at that scale with a grain of salt.

There are towns in Alaska that are 100% vaccinated, though, they only had to vax about 180 people .... (there was some news spot on it not too long ago)

Numbers, geography, logistics ... and unfortunately political attitudes play a part in these rates.



You're right to ignore percentages because they can be manipulated. What can't be manipulated is 125'000 (and rising) deaths in UK to Coronavirus. The worst in Europe..

Even then, the 125'000 figure is manipulated by excluding various categories. The figure only includes those who died directly according to Covid 19 and excludes, say, those who had certain underlying conditions. The Government argues that Covid might not have been the sole reason they died and in doing so, ignores any possibility that Covid was a factor at all. Some estimates argue that the true British figure for Covid deaths should be closer to 200'000. Questions to the Health Minister about this are brushed aside or ignored completely.

Faux Aussie is only quoting vaccination rates because it was something that the Tory government lucked into.

The Oxford AstraZenica vaccine was not proven or fully tested when it became available but Johnson took a punt and signed a huge contract with AstraZenica to supply UK. It was a pure gamble on his part and it could have gone horribly wrong. No doubt had it gone wrong he would have blamed it on the EU.

But it turned out to be reliable and Britain got ahead of the game. But another factor that helped Britain get ahead was the EU making the decision to ensure that vaccines acquired by the EU were distributed fairly among member nations and there would be no "Vaccine Nationalism". They went out of their way to ensure that powerful member nations like Germany, France, Italy, Holland, etc didn't take disproportionate amounts of vaccine.

The delay in that process meant Britain got even further ahead in the vaccination programme and all of a sudden, headlines started to appear in the Tory press claiming a victory for Brexit.

It soon became apparent that AstraZenica were giving Britain priority over deliveries. AZ tried to cover their arse by claiming that they were having "production difficulties"... but it seemed a bit odd that the same machines and the same production processes were having no difficulty in production for UK supply. Hmmmmm... how does that work..?

This led to the fiasco of the threats to block exports to UK which clearly couldn't happen and only made a bad situation look worse.

It's still rumbling on and the EU won't forget this. AZ will one day need EU co-operation over something.

The bottom line, however, is that the vaccine procurement by UK was a complete and utter throw of the dice by Johnson that got lucky.

And it had nothing to do with Brexit.
Jennifer1984 On about 2 hours ago
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#1100New Post! Apr 07, 2021 @ 07:22:13



This is the difference between the dignified and noble EU and the Little Englander / Brexiter.
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