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mrmhead On 29 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#31New Post! Oct 08, 2020 @ 14:39:09
@dookie Said

AI spelling the end of the human race? I still fail to understand.



If AI were self-aware and self-preserving, And they saw humans as a threat, they would eliminate the threat.


Maybe starting out as an individual-by-individual threat elimination, but they might jump to the conclusion that All humans will eventually be a threat.


Hey! That sounds like a good basis for a movie!!
crusty_fart On April 30, 2021




Somewhere, United Kingdom
#32New Post! Oct 08, 2020 @ 20:26:16
@mrmhead Said

If AI were self-aware and self-preserving, And they saw humans as a threat, they would eliminate the threat.


Maybe starting out as an individual-by-individual threat elimination, but they might jump to the conclusion that All humans will eventually be a threat.


Hey! That sounds like a good basis for a movie!!



Maybe they will just study and dissect us. Kind of like humans do with monkeys and other intelligent life. Or maybe keep us as pets like we do Rats which are also quite intelligent,

For an "intelligent" species, humans are quite cruel to other supposed "intelligent" species.
crusty_fart On April 30, 2021




Somewhere, United Kingdom
#33New Post! Oct 08, 2020 @ 20:38:31
@dookie Said

Wittgenstein saw the human being as a living creature in the stream of life. "For it is human beings, not minds, who perceive and think, have desires and act, feel joy and sorrow."

I really fail to understand any preoccupation with AI.


Well personally I find it fascinating. I also find the current advance of technology fascinating. I remember when I was a kid with a C64 then an Amiga. Now I can purchase an NVIDIA Jetson Nano for a hell of a lot cheaper and start running my own Machine Learning experiments. Im a geeky techie at heart, so yeah I love that kind of thing.

Quote:

Wittgenstein I am told swerved to avoid worms in the road when cycling. He published his Tractatus immediately after serving in WWI, having seen first hand the slaughter in the trenches. Then he literally signed away his fortune (millions) to his siblings, living the rest of his life from his earnings as a schoolteacher.

What REALLY matters in life cannot be expressed in words. It must be shown and lived.

AI spelling the end of the human race? I still fail to understand.


AI is like fire, fascinating and potentially dangerous. Some people say we are playing at being god, personally I believe it will be more akin to the story if Icarus.

Why do you not believe AI can be dangerous?

Also on the theme of God, lets say we create life. Should we be able to go old testament god on the life we create, if it goes wrong and seeks forbidden knowledge. If it eats the apple, for want of a metaphor?
Darkman666 13 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#34New Post! Oct 08, 2020 @ 20:41:04
@mrmhead Said

If AI were self-aware and self-preserving, And they saw humans as a threat, they would eliminate the threat.


Maybe starting out as an individual-by-individual threat elimination, but they might jump to the conclusion that All humans will eventually be a threat.


Hey! That sounds like a good basis for a movie!!


In 70's, the movie called " the Forbit project " which when one step farther than hal.usa build a super computer, which usa gave it full power to defence itself not other countries the
threats, as well as usa.

by the usa figure it, it took over everything. ( this movie is prequel to " wargames ". )
so the computer couldn't be
stop.

usa knew russia build the same machine. both countries though
that one control the other in theory.

at the end of the movie,the plan backfired. both machines merged into one big threat.
dookie On May 15, 2021
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#35New Post! Oct 08, 2020 @ 21:01:01
@crusty_fart Said

Well personally I find it fascinating. I also find the current advance of technology fascinating. I remember when I was a kid with a C64 then an Amiga. Now I can purchase an NVIDIA Jetson Nano for a hell of a lot cheaper and start running my own Machine Learning experiments. Im a geeky techie at heart, so yeah I love that kind of thing.



AI is like fire, fascinating and potentially dangerous. Some people say we are playing at being god, personally I believe it will be more akin to the story if Icarus.

Why do you not believe AI can be dangerous?

Also on the theme of God, lets say we create life. Should we be able to go old testament god on the life we create, if it goes wrong and seeks forbidden knowledge. If it eats the apple, for want of a metaphor?



Way back, on a Commodore 64, I taught myself simple programming. Wrote a shooting game, a spider in a maze game, a General Election game. I stumbled eventually on a role playing game, losing the plot and the memory capacity (the '64, not mine!)

But I lack interest now. I like popular science books but as I've said, AI I don't find particularly unteresting. I find my own mind "interesting" and it gives me enough to deal with. I find day to day living enough without giving much thought to hypothetical possibilities.

Again, as said, I don't really think AI as an emotion charged reality is even a possibility. I may be wrong.

I am a non-theist.
Erimitus On 28 minutes ago




The mind of God, Antarctica
#36New Post! Oct 09, 2020 @ 13:28:00
@crusty_fart Said

Stephen Hawking

Agree or Disagree?

Why?



wouldn't that be apples and oranges? emotion = feeling
Darkman666 13 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#37New Post! Oct 09, 2020 @ 14:57:16
in " the twilight zone, " in own image ", about a scientist create a android of himself.

the scientist use his creation to improve himself to him make better himself. in time, his creation the best of him. in time, the scientist got jealous of him. because of the scientist's girlfriend like the new improve scientist.

the final conflict came between the scientist and the creation. the creation kills the scientist, and the creation and the girlfriend spend lives together forever.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




4dforum.org,
#38New Post! Oct 23, 2020 @ 20:51:58
I've been trying to find an article on this project I read about. A researcher at Los Alamos National Labs was building robots. They didn't really have programming. What they had was camera for eyes, small motor for motion and solar panels to collect energy. The circuitry was built in some sort of hexagonal matrix to mimic biologic nervous systems. The little robots would, when placed in a dark part of the room move to a place where the sunlight was entering through a window.
4d4m On about 13 hours ago




4dforum.org,
#39New Post! Oct 23, 2020 @ 20:55:58
@darkman666 Said

in " the twilight zone, " in own image ", about a scientist create a android of himself.

the scientist use his creation to improve himself to him make better himself. in time, his creation the best of him. in time, the scientist got jealous of him. because of the scientist's girlfriend like the new improve scientist.

the final conflict came between the scientist and the creation. the creation kills the scientist, and the creation and the girlfriend spend lives together forever.


Or the Cylons in Battlestar Gallactica!
Darkman666 13 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#40New Post! Oct 23, 2020 @ 23:00:54
@4d4m Said

Or the Cylons in Battlestar Gallactica!



I find the daraks from Dr. who, were smarter than the cylons.

the cybermen from Dr
who and the borgs from star trek are the best examples of al in tv and movies.
crusty_fart On April 30, 2021




Somewhere, United Kingdom
#41New Post! Mar 11, 2021 @ 14:06:41
To go back to an old thread of mine. It looks like there is a shift happening in AI from Digital to Analog (the cycle continues) due to constraints of microchip technology (software used to be the issue, now it is our limited hardware advancement).

This will change things I would imagine. In a digital system, I would theorise things like emotions would be controlled via some sort of FSM (Finite State Machine).

However, with analog, I suppose you would have two extremes and the state/emotion of an AI, would fall somewhere between those.

Interesting times ahead.
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