Just for the record, i never once used the word 'scrounger' and i never used the word scumbag against any members, it was reserved for criminals. I did throw leftie around though.
Point taken and acknowledged. However, it is the use of such rhetoric at all and in any context that ups the ante on discussions. It only produces retaliations - of which I freely admit to being one of the guilty parties - and in the end the whole thing deteriorates to a slanging match which is unproductive.
People feel oppressed.... howled down... by such verbiage and it's very difficult not to respond in kind. I will not be howled down, or forced into a defensive position by such aggression. Rather, I'll metaphorically roll my sleeves up and come right back at you.
I cut my teeth in the combative world of student politics. That's a tough bearpit to learn in.
Just because an opinion doesn't come from the same part of the political spectrum as yours doesn't necessarily make it diametrically extreme as yours. An unfavourable comment to an extreme right wing message doesn't necessarily mean the response is from the extreme left wing.
In my time on this forum I've locked horns with Boxer (remember him..?), the Australian, Bob the Fisherman and now you. It seems that no sooner does one depart, then another with almost exactly the same views pops up. I sometimes wonder if it's the same person trying to re-invent himself. It's a suspicion that crosses my mind, but I discount it in an attempt to show at least some faith in human decency.
Boxer even attempted to pretend he was a gay man, for what reason I don't know (well, I had my suspicions), but I saw through him. He thought just saying it would suffice, but he didn't do his homework and fell down too many times when I attempted to make discussion on the sort of things any member of the LGBT community would know. Honestly.... he didn't have a clue about gay culture, points of view or any of the political things that matter to us. My use of simple phrases and slang completely baffled him. He was just....... wrong.
The world of internet forums provides anonymity and some use this as a cover for all sort of extremes. Well, that's their privilege. But it's soon seen through and when it is, claiming to be any sort of moderate just doesn't wash.
You can hide your face. You can hide your name. But you can't hide your point of view when you're putting it out there in the most brazen terms. And you have to expect to be challenged and taken to task for it.
So how about a sort of "Pax Fora". Let's try to at least tone down the ferocity of the rhetoric. I'm not asking you to change your position on issues. I want a rollicking good debate on any topic and I'd be appalled if you changed your point of view (which I don't think will happen anyway).
Some rudeness is allowed... that's what the message at the foot of the box says. But let's not abuse the privilege. Agreed...?