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dookie On 3 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu

, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jul 26, 2020 @ 11:18:31
No one actually reads Finnegans Wake. It remains for me the best book I've never read.

By James Joyce, it took him about 18 years to write and kept him up late into the night. His long suffering wife Nora Barnacle would be kept awake, hearing Joyce chuckling to himself. Occasionally she would cry out to him, begging him to write something that others just might understand - obviously she had her eye on the possibility of royalties, which were always in short supply given Joyce's usual style of output. Joyce was a bit of a cadger himself.

Anyway, it IS Finnegans Wake, not Finnegan's Wake. Which already begins to suggest the wordplay that Joyce indulged in. Finnegans......wake up! Or something like that.

Joyce, as far as I can determine, was a bit of a Dogenist. Living during the time of Freud and Jung, he exclaimed:- "Mystery of the unconscious? Bah, what about the mystery of consciousness?"

Anyway, maybe more later, but just wondered if anyone here had actually read the book.
Jennifer1984 On about 1 hour ago
Returner and proud

Penzance, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Jul 26, 2020 @ 12:14:59
I had to work hard to get through Ulysses but it was worth it. Finnegan's Wake is Joyce's second best known novel. I might get around to it one day.
dookie On 3 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu

, United Kingdom
#5New Post! Jul 26, 2020 @ 16:34:01
@Jennifer1984 Said

Inventing his own words to make up for the lack of variety in the English language..?


Now you have my attention.

There is a guy called Bill Cole Cliet who has written a few books about Finnegans Wake. One of them is a kind of Bluffers Guide, "Finnegans Wake in 15 Minutes." He is also the one who wrote the Lexicon. Some of the entries are vastly entertaining, at least I think so.

baallad , is a song, for example "Mary Had A Little Lamb.

analist, we shall leave aside, this being a Family Forum

agleement, a merry, joyous, or gleeful mutual understanding or agreement. A lovely word.

absintheminded, becoming forgetful because of over consumption of alcohol.

As you can see, I'm just dipping into the early pages.

Dipping into the back of book, there is:- zeroine, which possibly you will not like, being the most important female character or heroine in a fictional work whose role is still pretty much of no importance or a zero.

All good fun.
dookie On 3 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu

, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Jul 26, 2020 @ 16:41:10
Getting back to quotes, one from Gertrude Stein on James Joyce:- “People like him because he is incomprehensible and anybody can understand him.”

Quite profound really!

Or as Joyce himself says in the Wake.......“Well, you know or don’t you kennet or haven’t I told you every telling has a taling and that’s the he and the she of it.”
dookie On 3 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu

, United Kingdom
#7New Post! Jul 26, 2020 @ 16:53:51
Astonishingly, I have just looked it up and found that the very first translation of Finnegans Wake has been made.......into Chinese! I don't think this is a gag, or fake news.

From the translator:- "Finnegans Wake is a book of freedom," she says. "I do not only mean political freedom. Joyce will create new words to transcend social restraints. So the making of a new word shows Joyce's disobedience."

dookie On 3 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu

, United Kingdom
#8New Post! Jul 30, 2020 @ 08:29:56
Just browsing through a Joseph Campbell book on James Joyce (prior to hoovering, so I'm putting off the evil moment) and read part of Mr Campbell's speech delivered upon James Joyces death. It refers to Finnegans Wake....

James Joyce, who, as a young man, went heroically forth from his native Dublin to forge in the smithy of his soul the uncreated conscience of his race, and toiled then thirty-seven years to effect a divinely comical transmutation of the entire spectacle of modern life; of the God with Two Arms, not alone in the rock of Peter’s church but in every stone in the street, not alone in the Sacrifice of the Altar but in every utterance of man, beast, fowl, or fish—in every sound whatsoever, from the music of the supernal spheres to the splash of a sewer or the crack of a stick; James Joyce, who in one continuous present tense integument slowly unfolded all cycle-wheeling history, is dead.

(Apart from "integument" it sure beats listening to Matt "audacious" Handcock, the UK Health Minister, on the TV)
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