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DiscordTiger On about 7 hours ago
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#121New Post! Jun 30, 2020 @ 02:21:57
Deceitful? Disappointing? Disheveled?
mrmhead 0 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#122New Post! Jun 30, 2020 @ 02:28:20
Derelict
Divisive
Disinterested
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#123New Post! Jun 30, 2020 @ 03:23:26
Draft-Dodger.
darkman666 On about 3 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#124New Post! Jun 30, 2020 @ 03:32:39
every time, i see joe's picture, if you look at him, look at him, look he died. nobody told him. d.o.a. look to stiff to be normal rich person or gentleman. to take too serious.
darkman666 On about 3 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#125New Post! Jun 30, 2020 @ 03:39:59
@chaski Said

Draft-Dodger.



than compare to a goofy woodpecker that we have in the white house. speaking a goofy woodpecker in the white house, see bozo's face. i see better head come out of my zipper!
dookie On 47 minutes ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#126New Post! Jun 30, 2020 @ 08:15:49
My original enquiry regarding the state of Donald Trump's mind was slightly tongue in cheek. But nevermind, we in the UK certainly have our own problems with Boris Johnson, affectionately known to his friend (sic) as "Bojo".

Bojo, the man who promised his constituents to "lay down in front of the bulldozers" to stop a third Heathrow runway, who then flew off to Afghanistan to avoid the vote on the issue, which would have obliged him to vote against his own Party and thus lead to being thrown out. At least Covid-19 has rescued him here, Heathrow not even needing one runway at the moment let alone a third.

Once PM, Bojo threw 21 Tories out of his Party for voting against him. Fairs fair, and most were unable to arrange a quick jaunt to Afghanistan. A staunch supporter of UK Democracy Bojo then shut down Parliament (the heart of our Constitution) to avoid scrutiny of his pre-deal Deal with the EU (part of the EU Withdrawal proceedures.) This ruled illegal by the Supreme Court, undaunted - after scrutiny of the Deal by the UK's elected representatives found it unacceptable - Bojo called an Election. His slogan/soundbites of "Get Brexit Done" and "Oven Ready Deal" won the hearts of the nation and a huge 34% of the total electorate gave him a thumping endorsement to proceed.

His "Oven Ready Deal" now cremated, and a No-Deal on the horizon, Bojo stumbles on. Last seen repainting his private jet with the Union Jack and planning a world tour to promote Global Britain and "open Britain up to the world". Strangely his new immigration Laws will do much to exclude many from actually coming here, including those with only "low skills" - yes, the very ones the whole nation has been clapping each and every thursday night during the Pandemic for keeping the country going and off of its knees.

Seriously, I am financially secure. I'm 71 and looking for a quiet life and not really a political animal. I can afford to laugh, but in more reflective moments I could weep.
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#127New Post! Jul 01, 2020 @ 15:07:02
To Whom It May Concern - Part 2:

Yes. I finished reading all 131 pages of the USA Patriot Act

After I read it, I didn't trust myself so I did numerous word searches.

While reading it and doing the word searches, I was intent on finding anything that could be construed (even remotely) as a mechanism to take control of the U.S. government by anyone (either overly of covertly like a "ghost government).

I found numerous things relating to the following topics:

Enhancing domestic security against terrorism
Enhanced surveillance procedures
Anti-money-laundering to prevent terrorism
Border security
Removing obstacles to investigating terrorism
Victims and families of victims of terrorism
Increased information sharing for critical infrastructure protection
Terrorism criminal law Improved intelligence
Miscellaneous

HOWEVER there were NO mechanisms nor provisions nor any other (choose your own word here) that in any way support the idea that some "ghost government" could take over the USA.

Don't get me wrong. A lot if it is bulls*** and could easily be viewed as "ant-partiotic". Some of it seems (clearly to me) to tread on our Constitutional rights.

None the less, it does NOT have any overt or covert (i.e. hidden) provisions or mechanisms for anyone to set up a "ghost government" to take over the USA.

As a side note: As long as our armed forces remain apolitical and defend our Constitution, "we" have no fear of coup d'etat nor "ghost governments". As long as our Congress defends our Constitution, "we" have no fear of authoritarian rule.

Thank you for your time....

Now... back to the topic of Biden: Apparently Biden has indicated to his team that he will only, if he wins, sit for one term. Makes sense to me... he is getting a bit "long in the tooth".
dookie On 47 minutes ago
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, United Kingdom
#128New Post! Jul 01, 2020 @ 15:34:56
@chaski Said



Now... back to the topic of Biden: Apparently Biden has indicated to his team that he will only, if he wins, sit for one term. Makes sense to me... he is getting a bit "long in the tooth".



"Sit" I assume is the operative word.....and even then, very ambitious.

4d4m On about 6 hours ago




4dforum.org,
#129New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 17:33:07
@chaski Said

You remain wrong on this point.


Ok, sorry about the delay. I've been busy working on other projects.

The ability of the Government to declare martial law; The President and/or Congress have the legal authority to declare martial law (see the applicable WIkipedia entry
Note historically martial law has been used within limited geographical boundaries with respect to the nation. For instance in San Fransisco in 1934 in response to a dock worker's strike. The entire nation can be put under a state of martial law.

The Insurrection Act of 1807 provides the President with the power to bypass the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (limiting the use of military personnel in law enforcement missions) and activate the National Guard (or any other military asset) to suppress "civil disorder, insurrection or rebellion."

The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act ( Wikipedia again )gave the president unprecedented powers with respect to declaring martial law. The act was debated and amended and finally repealed. The intent and origination of this law is debated and a case study of it's own.

The USA Patriot Act does not expand on or limit these already existing powers. What the Act does do is allows the government to close or take over the operation of any broadcasting station or apparatus ( or carrier- includes internet news). The government must provide adequate compensation and does not have to relinquish control until 6 months after a "National Emergency" is over. For information check this page at Cornell Law School

In conclusion, it is obvious the government could declare martial law and not tell anyone about it. They could also feed disinformation as the CIA is authorized to do oversees to the US public during such time and for 6 months after.
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#130New Post! Jul 08, 2020 @ 19:51:27
@4d4m Said

Ok, sorry about the delay. I've been busy working on other projects.

The ability of the Government to declare martial law; The President and/or Congress have the legal authority to declare martial law (see the applicable WIkipedia entry
Note historically martial law has been used within limited geographical boundaries with respect to the nation. For instance in San Fransisco in 1934 in response to a dock worker's strike. The entire nation can be put under a state of martial law.

The Insurrection Act of 1807 provides the President with the power to bypass the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 (limiting the use of military personnel in law enforcement missions) and activate the National Guard (or any other military asset) to suppress "civil disorder, insurrection or rebellion."

The John Warner National Defense Authorization Act ( Wikipedia again )gave the president unprecedented powers with respect to declaring martial law. The act was debated and amended and finally repealed. The intent and origination of this law is debated and a case study of it's own.

The USA Patriot Act does not expand on or limit these already existing powers. What the Act does do is allows the government to close or take over the operation of any broadcasting station or apparatus ( or carrier- includes internet news). The government must provide adequate compensation and does not have to relinquish control until 6 months after a "National Emergency" is over. For information check this page at Cornell Law School

In conclusion, it is obvious the government could declare martial law and not tell anyone about it. They could also feed disinformation as the CIA is authorized to do oversees to the US public during such time and for 6 months after.


And that literally has nothing to do with what you were claiming before.

As is apparently often the case you make a BS claim, then you switch topics by saying a bunch of completely different stuff...


Also, if the government declared marshal law, literally everyone would know about it.


chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#131New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 02:51:27
But, moving away from ignorant bulls***…


Rumor has it that Biden is considering Tammy Duckworth for VP.

4d4m On about 6 hours ago




4dforum.org,
#132New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 03:21:01
@chaski Said

And that literally has nothing to do with what you were claiming before.

As is apparently often the case you make a BS claim, then you switch topics by saying a bunch of completely different stuff...


Also, if the government declared marshal law, literally everyone would know about it.




What was I claiming before that isn't covered in the answer?

Why do you say "if the government declared martial law, literally everyone would know about it" ? If the government can take over the press obviously they would control what we would and wouldn't "know"
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#133New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 04:06:44
@4d4m Said

What was I claiming before that isn't covered in the answer?



You specivically stated, and this is a quote.,"Then I pointed out the Patriot Act allows for a secret government to be installed without informing the public."

This is false.

It is in no way part to the USA Patriot Act.

Don't get me wrong. I am NOT defending the USA Patriot Act. You are just wrong about this point.
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#134New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 04:08:15
@4d4m Said

Why do you say "if the government declared martial law, literally everyone would know about it"



Do you know what "martial law" is?

If the government instituted "martial law", how would you not know that "martial law" was in effect?
dihctatr On about 13 hours ago




Upland, California
#135New Post! Jul 09, 2020 @ 04:18:58
while you voting for racist biden go vote for mighty mouse as vice pres\\vote for change yeah\

CHANGE YOUR UNDERWEAR

Leftist Antifa and Leftists BLM protesting in Leftist-run cities. Same story all over the country. And what is the media telling you the solution is? Be sure to vote for the Democrats in November!
..george washington PROMISED change\
..fdr PROMISED change\\
..kennedy PROMISED change\
..lbj PROMISED change \
..obama PROMISED change \
..DEM VOTERS STILL WAITING FOR change\
EZE ANSWER=WAIT ANOTHER 300 YEARS-SEE HOW SIMPLE !
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