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mrmhead On about 4 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#46New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 00:06:13
@Electric_Banana Said

I think a lot of people casually, without thought, refer to belief in some form of creation as 'Christianity'...like always asking for 'Coke' even when you mean 'Pepsi' depending on who owns the franchise.



I'd often get it wrong, so now I just ask for a "Cola"
mrmhead On about 4 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#47New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 00:10:23
@chaski Said

I have met and known many atheists, though obviously not all or even most of them.

However, I have never heard any atheist calling their place(s) of meeting a "church".

Nor have I ever heard an atheist call their belief system a religion.

But, again, I don't know all atheists... just a few.



Apparently there is such a thing, but a more general "atheist group" search seems to get more hits
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#48New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 00:23:01
@mrmhead Said

Apparently there is such a thing, but a more general "atheist group" search seems to get more hits



So we learn something new every day... Atheists actually have priestesses...
darkman666 On 43 minutes ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#49New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 00:23:27
in 60's, when i as a kid, we called coke, and then adults, we call coke or any soft drink either soda or pop. never did back then, why we called soda, pop. i could understand 7up and sprite, you called " bubble ". then, you were your kid, you get confused, you take a bubble bath with sprite. you used " mr. bubble ", what mr. bubble 's first name?

do you think mr. bubble was atheist, because he had no first, middle name?

i bet you will hard time explain to me, if you refer above this in the bible.
4d4m On September 20, 2020




4dforum.org,
#50New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 02:43:31
It's because of the Mandella effect . Along the way when alternate universes crossed paths you somehow ended up in the wrong one.
GreatestIam2 On about 5 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#51New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 14:36:20
@chaski Said

I have met and known many atheists, though obviously not all or even most of them.

However, I have never heard any atheist calling their place(s) of meeting a "church".

Nor have I ever heard an atheist call their belief system a religion.

But, again, I don't know all atheists... just a few.


Surveys show =======

Atheists Are Sometimes More Religious Than Christians
A new study shows how poorly we understand the beliefs of people who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular.

Americans are deeply religious people—and atheists are no exception. Western Europeans are deeply secular people—and Christians are no exception.

These twin statements are generalizations, but they capture the essence of a fascinating finding in a new study about Christian identity in Western Europe. By surveying almost 25,000 people in 15 countries in the region, and comparing the results with data previously gathered in the U.S., the Pew Research Center discovered three things.

First, researchers confirmed the widely known fact that, overall, Americans are much more religious than Western Europeans. They gauged religious commitment using standard questions, including “Do you believe in God with absolute certainty?” and “Do you pray daily?”

Second, the researchers found that American “nones”—those who identify as atheist, agnostic, or nothing in particular—are more religious than European nones. The notion that religiously unaffiliated people can be religious at all may seem contradictory, but if you disaffiliate from organized religion it does not necessarily mean you’ve sworn off belief in God, say, or prayer.

The third finding reported in the study is by far the most striking. As it turns out, “American ‘nones’ are as religious as—or even more religious than—Christians in several European countries, including France, Germany, and the U.K.”

“That was a surprise,” Neha Sahgal, the lead researcher on the study, told me. “That’s the comparison that’s fascinating to me.” She highlighted the fact that whereas only 23 percent of European Christians say they believe in God with absolute certainty, 27 percent of American nones say this.

America is a country so suffused with faith that religious attributes abound even among the secular. Consider the rise of “atheist churches,” which cater to Americans who have lost faith in supernatural deities but still crave community, enjoy singing with others, and want to think deeply about morality. It’s religion, minus all the God stuff. This is a phenomenon spreading across the country, from the Seattle Atheist Church to the North Texas Church of Freethought. The Oasis Network, which brings together non-believers to sing and learn every Sunday morning, has affiliates in nine U.S. cities.

Last month, almost 1,000 people streamed into a [Atheist] church in San Francisco for an unprecedented event billed as “Beyoncé Mass.” Most were people of color and members of the LGBTQ community. Many were secular. They used Queen Bey’s songs, which are replete with religious symbolism, as the basis for a communal celebration—one that had all the trappings of a religious service. That seemed completely fitting to some, including one reverend who said, “Beyoncé is a better theologian than many of the pastors and priests in our church today.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...theists-religious-european-christians/560936/

Definitions are going stupid and that is why I wrote ----

Since following an ideology is a prerequisite of religion, atheism can be considered a religion, since atheists draws on philosophical ideologies to guide ideas, behaviors, and actions, like that of any religion. That is why atheist churches are called atheist churches.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On about 5 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#52New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 14:43:34
@Electric_Banana Said

I think a lot of people casually, without thought, refer to belief in some form of creation as 'Christianity'...like always asking for 'Coke' even when you mean 'Pepsi' depending on who owns the franchise.


I agree that there are a lot of thoughtless people.

The information I gave was about Finland and they are mostly Lutheran.

The beginning of this link has Bishop Spong talking on this issue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUmKEH9jnu8

Regards
DL
mrmhead On about 4 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#53New Post! May 30, 2020 @ 16:23:21
@GreatestIam2 Said


Definitions are going stupid and that is why I wrote ----

Since following an ideology is a prerequisite of religion, atheism can be considered a religion, since atheists draws on philosophical ideologies to guide ideas, behaviors, and actions, like that of any religion. That is why atheist churches are called atheist churches.

Regards
DL



Yes I saw that article when I found there are "churches"

And as for "Definitions" - it's called "Operational Definitions"
A specific definition for a specific scope - which is what you did, and the article didn't.
GreatestIam2 On about 5 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#54New Post! May 31, 2020 @ 20:37:29
@mrmhead Said

Yes I saw that article when I found there are "churches"

And as for "Definitions" - it's called "Operational Definitions"
A specific definition for a specific scope - which is what you did, and the article didn't.


I am not as long winded and did not want to do a TLDR post.

I KIS.

Regards
DL
4d4m On September 20, 2020




4dforum.org,
#55New Post! Jun 05, 2020 @ 06:46:10
Having a church isn't so hard, here's how from the Huffington Post
GreatestIam2 On about 5 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#56New Post! Jun 18, 2020 @ 14:50:49
@4d4m Said

Having a church isn't so hard, here's how from the Huffington Post


It is too easy for the con men to do whatever they want. To me, it is open fraud.

Regards
DL
mrmhead On about 4 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#57New Post! Jun 18, 2020 @ 15:45:15
@4d4m Said

Having a church isn't so hard, here's how from the Huffington Post



@GreatestIam2 Said

It is too easy for the con men to do whatever they want. To me, it is open fraud.

Regards
DL


A friend in high school talked about starting his own church with ceremonies that included smoking pot. That way it would be legal.
4d4m On September 20, 2020




4dforum.org,
#58New Post! Jun 19, 2020 @ 02:06:43
Do you still keep in contact? I might be looking for a new church to join.
chaski On about 1 hour ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#59New Post! Jun 19, 2020 @ 02:51:27
@4d4m Said

I might be looking for a new church to join.


Why do you need a church?
GreatestIam2 On about 5 hours ago




Ottawa, Canada
#60New Post! Jun 19, 2020 @ 17:49:33
@mrmhead Said

A friend in high school talked about starting his own church with ceremonies that included smoking pot. That way it would be legal.


I hear you. Just about anything is allowed. It is open fraud.

Regards
DL
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