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chaski On about 7 hours ago

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#46New Post! Jul 04, 2018 @ 05:09:03
@gakINGKONG Said

I'm glad to see the whole issue has been cleared up since the time of the original post.

This silly thread "cleared up" nothing.
Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019

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#47New Post! Jul 06, 2018 @ 12:48:49
@ronyvo Said

(Conclusion) Using the Koran to attack Christianity

As I have proved the ignorance of those 2 PhDs (the Saudi Arabian scholars in my previous 3 replies to their unfounded attacks on Christianity, I’ll summarize as follows:
1- All Christians believe in ONE God. Jesus Christ IS GOD. We don’t worship St Mary. Mohammad’s accusation that Christians believe in 3 gods is from his satanic imagination.
Over 3 Billion Christians in the world who believe in ONE GOD for over 2000 years, then comes one person (Mohammad) about 600 years after the Lord Jesus Christ and spread a lie that Christians worship 3 gods, is either due to ignorance or deception, actually both.
2- Mohammad is one of those false prophets that Jesus warned of. The Muslims trying to spread the lie, that the comforter (The Holy Spirit) is Mohammad.
3- Mohammad could not make up his mind. That is why the Koran is full of contradictions. Here are some examples:
“Be patient with what they say, and part from them courteously.” Surah 73:10 But in Surah 2:191 “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you.”
Also, “There is no compulsion in religion.” Surah 2:256, While in Surah 193 “Fight (kill) them until there is no persecution and the religion is God’s (Islam).”
Also, “Argue with people of the Book, other than evil doers, only by means of what are better! And say we believe in what has been sent down to us and sent down to you. Our God is the same as your God, and we are surrendered to Him;” Surah 29:46 While in Surah 9:29 “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day…nor acknowledge the religion of truth (Islam), (even if they are) of the people of the Book, until they pay Jizia (tribute tax) with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”
“If you were in doubt as to what have revealed unto you, then ask those who have been reading the Book (the Bible) from before you; the truth has indeed come from your Lord; so be in no wise of those in doubt.” Surah 10:94
Also, the Koran states that the Bible is the Word of God: “Can you ( O you men of faith) entertain the hope that they will believe in you?- seeing that a party of them heard the Word of Allah, and perverted it knowingly after they understood it.” Surah 2:75
4- The 2 PhDs, who used the NOBLE HOLY Koran to attack Christianity, wrote
“ Jesus did not attribute divinity to Himself.” This is, also, WRONG.
Jesus said, “ I am the way, the truth, and the life.” John 14:6
Also, “ If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; and
From now on you know Him and have seen Him.” John 14:7
He also said, “He who has seen Me has seen the Father.” John 14:9
Also, “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he
who believes in Me shall never thirst.” John 6:35
“I and My Father are ONE”. John 10:30
“All that the Father has, is mine”. John 16:15
“And he who sees Me sees Him who sent Me.” John 12:45
Jesus asked the blind man who Jesus gave him sight, “Do you believe in the Son of God?” He answered and said, “Who is He, Lord that I may believe in Him?” And Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him and it is He who is talking with you.”
The discourse with the Jews: “Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day: and he saw it, and was glad. Then said the Jews unto Him, thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? Jesus said unto them, verily, verily, I say unto you before Abraham was, I am”. John 8:56-58

The Muslim leaders should stop attacking the Bible, which has stood the test of time. Historical and scientific evidence shows that Christians and Jews did not alter their scriptures, as they desperately claim.
Many manuscripts of early copies of the Bible were discovered through the years:
-The Sinaitic, which was written about 270 years before Islam
-The Alexandrian, which was written 200 years before Islam.
Those are kept now in the British Museum.
-The Vatican, which was written 300 years before Islam.
Those, and others such as Codex Ephraemi and the Dead Sea Scrolls and thousands of other copies.

They should concentrate on cleaning their Koran from the so overwhelming contradictions and the historic, scientific and geographical errors, which Mohammad ignorantly spread. We are in the 21st century. Islam is trying to take us to the stone age.
The Muslim leaders should take off the robe of Islamic force and violence and put on the Robe of love and follow the Prince of love the Lord Jesus Christ.

Well thank heavens you posted all of this here. That'll show those Muslims.
patriotic On December 18, 2019

#48New Post! Sep 07, 2019 @ 14:44:28
Our God and allah
Some people think that the Muslim’s god (allah) and our (the Christians) God are the same.
This is, definitely, NOT TRUE.
Muslim advocates in the West are trying very hard to justify the legitimateness of Islam as a peaceful ‘religion’, especially after 9/11/01.
Out of desperation they use lies (deception) and double talk, which is allowed in Islam, al taqiya.
They use money, sex, race and terror (fear) to lure Americans to Islam, or at least get their sympathy.
Their god (Allah) is a god of hate. He instructs and encourages them to instill terror in the heart of non-Muslims and kill them (Surah 8:13-17 & many others). The Koran is full with “fight” and ”kill”.
One must acknowledge that Allah is not in harmony with our God.

Before Mohammad ’cleansed’ the Kabba of many idols, it was in fact a pagan temple dedicated by Hindus (although they weren’t called Hindus yet). The tribe of Mohammad followed a primary idol known as Durga, the moon god Al-llat who was represented by the crescent moon to the Arabs and the Hindus. Even before Mohammad claimed prophetic visions he wanted to be a Hebrew (obviously people he admired for their intelligence and beauty) and so he began emulating the Hebrews and their monotheism, but the Jews could not accept him.
Mohammad became angry with the Jews and Christians and began having his visions of his own god in his own way.
God ceased to be called Ar-Rhaman and Mohammad began using the word
Al-Llah to describe his god. This was never the Christian or Hebrew Yahweh (Elohei Avraham the (God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob), but the pagan Arab-Hindu Al-Lat of the Qurashi tribe. (Al meant ‘the’ and ilah meant ‘goddess’, not God.

Jesus taught, “Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you and persecute you.” Math 5:44
Ironically, they call the Christians INFIDELS because they believe (ignorantly) that Christians worship 3 gods (the Holy Trinity). Mohammad fails to understand monotheism. However, it is not enough to say there is only one God if you point at the wrong God.
The Muslims however, give Mohammad an equal position as Allah if not more importance.
In order to be a Muslim you have to say the shehada “there is no god but Allah, and Mohammad is his messenger”. If one cite the first part only, he cannot be a Muslim, he must cite the second part pertaining Mohammad.
Christians’ God, the Lord Jesus Christ is a God of love, peace and mercy.
Jesus forbade his followers from using the sword (Mathew 26:52).
When He was on earth He cured the sick healed the blind. Mohammad didn’t.
Jesus came to save lives (Luke 9:56). Mohammed came to destroy lives (Surah 48:16….).
There is much more to be said to prove that our God has nothing to do with Allah.
No way those 2 Gods are the same. Allah, the crescent moon, is one of the 360 gods, al ellat (the most popular), used to be worshiped by the Arabs, which Mohammad chose to avoid the tribes resentment.

Besides; Jesus (Whom the Koran claims that He is a prophet) warned:
“Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. BY THEIR FRUIT YOU WILL RECOGNISE THEM” Mat. 7:15-16.
“..and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people” Mat. 24:11

Even Abraham of the Bible is not Abraham of the Koran:
a) The Bible says that Abraham’s father’s name was Terah, but the Koran says Azar (Surah6:74).
b) Isaac was the one to be sacrificed not Ishmael (surah 37:100)
c) He had eight sons not just two as the Koran claims.
d) He had 3 wives and not 2.
e) He did not live and worshiped in the valley of Mecca (surah 14:37) but in Hebron.
f) He did not build the Kabah. The Kabah was not built by Adam and then rebuilt by Abraham. It was built by the pagans to worship a black rock which fell out of the sky.
g) Nimrod did not throw Abraham into fire (surah 21:68.69 & 9:69).Nimrod lived many centuries before Abraham.

Conclusion: Christianity and Islam are opposite to each other.
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