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Cpat92 On September 18, 2019
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Lauderhill, Florida
#76New Post! Jun 06, 2019 @ 17:15:37
@GreatestIam2 Said

What question?

As to attacking Christianity and Islam, all I can attack is their immorality and try to teach a better moral way, but as I say, the moment morals are the topic, both Christians and Muslims run for the hills.

You might wonder why your religion used jihad instead of sound moral arguments.

Regards
DL


I don't wonder why. I find it shameful that they don't follow what they are supposed to. Maybe Christians and Muslims you attack may run for the hills, but not all of them. Some will go into the defense while others will attack back. Before you attack morals, make sure yours is intact.
mrmhead On about 1 hour ago




NE, Ohio
#77New Post! Jun 06, 2019 @ 17:42:37
@GreatestIam2 Said

What question?

As to attacking Christianity and Islam, all I can attack is their immorality and try to teach a better moral way, but as I say, the moment morals are the topic, both Christians and Muslims run for the hills.

You might wonder why your religion used jihad instead of sound moral arguments.

Regards
DL



I think we've had a thread or two on morals and subjectivity.

i.e. "A better moral way" is subjective.
GreatestIam2 On September 15, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#78New Post! Jun 06, 2019 @ 19:18:45
@mrmhead Said

I think we've had a thread or two on morals and subjectivity.

i.e. "A better moral way" is subjective.


Indeed, yet Christians say that the morals they use are objective because the immoral prick they follow says so.

Care to argue if genocide and killing when god can just as easily cure is not immoral, be you think it objective or subjective?

I did not think so. Thanks.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On September 15, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#79New Post! Jun 06, 2019 @ 19:21:32
@Cpat92 Said

I don't wonder why. I find it shameful that they don't follow what they are supposed to. Maybe Christians and Muslims you attack may run for the hills, but not all of them. Some will go into the defense while others will attack back. Before you attack morals, make sure yours is intact.


Been there and done that.

There is no defence for the morality that Christianity and Islam use.

That is why they both resort to murder, inquisitions and jihads.

Care to try to justify the murder of kafer and apostates in the name of your god?

Regards
DL
Cpat92 On September 18, 2019
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Lauderhill, Florida
#80New Post! Jun 06, 2019 @ 19:56:42
@GreatestIam2 Said

Been there and done that.

There is no defence for the morality that Christianity and Islam use.

That is why they both resort to murder, inquisitions and jihads.

Care to try to justify the murder of kafer and apostates in the name of your god?

Regards
DL



What is there to justify? What recent murders have there been made in the name of God? I am not muslim so I cannot justify Jihads. There are muslims who would not justify them either. Never try to place the negatives of some with all.
GreatestIam2 On September 15, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#81New Post! Jun 07, 2019 @ 13:59:44
@Cpat92 Said

What is there to justify? What recent murders have there been made in the name of God? I am not muslim so I cannot justify Jihads. There are muslims who would not justify them either. Never try to place the negatives of some with all.


Be it a good Christian or a good Muslim, like the good S.S., all who fly a particular flag are supporting the works of the whole religion, good or evil.

The good Catholic that puts his coin in the collection basket is contributing to pedophile protection just as the evil Catholic's are.

I will leave the hair splitting to you.

Regards
DL
Cpat92 On September 18, 2019
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Lauderhill, Florida
#82New Post! Jun 07, 2019 @ 15:50:41
@GreatestIam2 Said

Be it a good Christian or a good Muslim, like the good S.S., all who fly a particular flag are supporting the works of the whole religion, good or evil.

The good Catholic that puts his coin in the collection basket is contributing to pedophile protection just as the evil Catholic's are.

I will leave the hair splitting to you.

Regards
DL



Then unfortunately, the blind will remain blind.
Electric_Banana On September 16, 2019




, New Zealand
#83New Post! Jun 08, 2019 @ 18:34:12
@GreatestIam2 Said

1. Where did you get this collective telepathy idea?

My telepathy just confirmed that my initial arrogance was justified on religious issues but nowhere else. It also insured that I would never call myself a Christian and it helped my determine that my best path was to call myself a Gnostic Christian.


With anything there is good, bad and crazy
Good psychics, bad psychics and, what i theory --> a large number of crazy psychics who believe they are god because of their psychic ability.
They integrate in society and black list those who have to use their mouths to speak to them. It's also very easy to hide this type of prejudice among themselves; wouldn't you say?

@GreatestIam2 Said


2. What do you mean when you say soul and where do you see it moving on to?



I understand popular robo-mechanical theory but I also suspect that every mech has a rider / every surrogate or avatar has a pilot ....somewhere.

@GreatestIam2 Said


3. Love and friendship is in most religions, for their in group members but also has a hate and unfriendliness towards those not in the group.



Yup and when those constituencies no longer have any opposition they will find differences among their own groups to begin opposing.
GreatestIam2 On September 15, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#84New Post! Jun 15, 2019 @ 17:33:34
@Cpat92 Said

Then unfortunately, the blind will remain blind.


Indeed.

Christians will remain blind to the evil they do with their homophobic and misogynous religion until they learn better morals from the non-religious and people like me.

Do you support what you see below, Christian, or are you one of the good ones?

African witches and Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr6gvtYrga8

Brain Washing ( Jesus Camp ''Highlights'' )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Death to Gays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On September 15, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#85New Post! Jun 15, 2019 @ 17:37:20
@Electric_Banana Said


They integrate in society and black list those who have to use their mouths to speak to them. It's also very easy to hide this type of prejudice among themselves; wouldn't you say?

.


No.

You seem to know many telepaths and how they go through life. I do not.

Regards
DL
Cpat92 On September 18, 2019
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Lauderhill, Florida
#86New Post! Jun 20, 2019 @ 12:06:32
@GreatestIam2 Said

Indeed.

Christians will remain blind to the evil they do with their homophobic and misogynous religion until they learn better morals from the non-religious and people like me.

Do you support what you see below, Christian, or are you one of the good ones?

African witches and Jesus.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr6gvtYrga8

Brain Washing ( Jesus Camp ''Highlights'' )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac

Death to Gays.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE

Regards
DL



This also goes to those of other religions and non believers. They will all be blind when living with such a closed mind.
GreatestIam2 On September 15, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#87New Post! Jun 20, 2019 @ 13:22:38
@Cpat92 Said

This also goes to those of other religions and non believers. They will all be blind when living with such a closed mind.


I do not see non-believers as having closed minds.

I see them has having open minds that do not let garbage fall in.

Theists should be so blessed, if they were, they would not be homophobic and misogynous.

Regards
DL
chaski On about 2 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#88New Post! Jun 20, 2019 @ 15:33:04
@GreatestIam2 Said


Christians will remain blind..


Most "christians" aren't actually "blind". They "believe" what other people tell them to "believe", because they never actually read their own holy book. This isn't "blindness", it is ignorance and willful stupidity.

Of course "christians" aren't the only ones who do this. Most "religious" people do the same thing... they willingly allow themselves to be told what to "believe". Thus the phrase "Religion is the opium of the people".

And, to be fair, there are plenty of non-religious people that also choose the path of ignorance and willful stupidity.

I know a man who was a non-christian (I won't call him a "non-believer" as he was Muslim. He read the bible, and after having read the bible he became a christian. A second man that i know was a "believer". He read the bible, and after having read the bible he stopped being a "believer". And having visited many churches, I have met a few (sadly a very few) people who have actually read the bible. I have had good and meaningful conversations with each of the above. Not discussions of agreement, but intelligent discussions of meaning from informed perspectives.

I like picking on these so called "christians" who love to tell everyone what the bible says, but don't actually know because they are too lazy or too willfully stupid to actually take the time to read their own holy book. I suppose it is a bad habit, but I get a huge kick out of watching people make fools of themselves by claiming to know things that they don't know. Though honestly I, ultimately, fee sad for them... the claim such great and strong faith, but their faith isn't strong enough for them to find out the truth for themselves... No, they prefer to take the easy way and have other tell them what they should or should not believe. Again... this not "blindness" it is ignorance and willful stupidity.

Worst, by claiming they "know" the bible and its meaning, without reading it and studying it, they are essentially liars.

Of course this comment also applies to the "believers" of other religions, who do not read their own holy book... and also to "non-believers" who tell people what the various holy book says without actually knowing.

The simple solution is: Take responsibility for one's own thinking and learn for oneself. That, however, is apparently a bad, insulting and childish opinion on my part.
GreatestIam2 On September 15, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#89New Post! Jun 20, 2019 @ 16:23:16
chaski

You left me nothing to argue against except your last.
If I did not note your cynicism I would.

Belief has little to do with why people are into their religions. All they want is to appease their tribal instinct and need of fellowship, regardless of which vile god their religions teach of.

Sheeple do not like to stand out and away from the tribes beliefs and put their tribal associations ahead of their moral sense.

They, hold their noses while accepting their vile gods just like many Republicans who held their noses while voting for Trump.

Regards
DL
Electric_Banana On September 16, 2019




, New Zealand
#90New Post! Jun 27, 2019 @ 00:48:16
@GreatestIam2 Said

No.

You seem to know many telepaths and how they go through life. I do not.

Regards
DL



Not many but there's room for constituencies like that to form which I think caused some problems a century back and then proceeding even further in time granting some men power, through fear, as they were mistaken as gods.
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