Conversion within the Faith

Negative.

That’s a false statement and claim.

You said probably. I said he isn’t to confirm that he’s not.

For someone who says they would like to gain information, you spend an awful a lot of time trying to point out flaws and the negative of one’s faith.

Incorrect.

I said, "Satan probably knew the answer also, or at least suspected it, and used it as a means to hurt one of God's followers"



I don't remember saying anything about your "faith". I couldn't care less what people's "faith" is. I do care when they misrepresent what the Bible says.

As it turns out we were talking about biblical stories, not your faith. Stories which are either A) myth/metaphor as I believe, or B) are flawed stories if they are supposed to be real events.

I do this a lot when people misrepresent the Bible, which i have read numerous times, and have studied all my adult life.

Have you read it? ALL of it? From start to finish? Have you studied it?

I've asked many people here on TFS if they have read the Bible.

Almost all have said that they have not. One said he "thought" he did, which is BS... if you read it you would know. Some have said that they will not. Nearly all have said (directly or indirectly) that I am wrong... even though they have not read nor studied it. None have given even remotely compelling arguments as to why I am wrong.

I could could be wrong, but if you have not read it, how could you possibly know.

Either way, he did not know.

When have I misrepresented the Bible?

How do you know that?

He would not have went with the idea of proving God wrong if he knew what the result would have been

To date, never...

Your understanding of the Adam & Eve story is the standard stuff that is typically put out by many if not most Christian sects.

Then why go so far in such a debate?

That is an opinion, which you have a right to.

Another option, which better fits the "facts": he was manipulating god into hurting an innocent and faithful followers.

Another option is that the entire story is not factual. As allegory the story works. In fact, the story belongs to the Jews (part of the Tanakh) and the Jews view the story as allegory. It is the Christians that try to push it as a factual story.

And as a fact based story it is flawed in many ways.

Wait... we're not suppose to discuss things anymore?

This is the "Religion & Philosophy" section of a forum (discussion) website, and I am no longer allowed to discuss religion any more?

I am no longer allowed to disagree with people when they say things I believe to be incorrect?

Ok.

Done.

In the future if I believe you to be incorrect about your understanding of bible, I will not correct you nor discuss it with you.

With you religion and philosophy are off limits.

I find that sad, but OK...Got it.

I also apologize for my 1st response in this thread, where I said:

"Sure. Not a bad idea. Do it. In my years I have attended a variety of services; presbyterian, roman catholic, episcopal, baptist, pentecostal, jewish.... etc... etc... It doesn't hurt to checkout various perspectives. You will meet people, and learn new things."

I will not make the mistake again.

Now you're jumping to conclusions.

That option does not better fit the "facts." It fits to what you wish to believe is factual. That statement is as equally an opinion than mine. Which Christians push it as factual? How can we push it as factual? Can anyone prove that this existed? Can anyone prove that it did not?