The Forum Site - Join the conversation
Forums:
News & Current Events

Video Series: How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World

Reply to Topic
AuthorMessage
Ellanjay On April 12, 2020
Troll



Toronto, Canada
#1New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 12:58:21
Preface: How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World


"Communism is neither a trend of thought, nor a doctrine, nor a failed attempt at a new way of ordering human affairs. Instead, it should be understood as a devil—an evil specter forged by hate, degeneracy, and other elemental forces in the universe. It took the form of a serpent, then that of a red dragon, and it keeps company with Satan, who hates God. It exploits low-level beings and demons to wreak havoc on man. The goal of the specter is to ruin humanity, and while the divine offers salvation to humankind, communism tells man not to believe, attacks human morality so as to renounce tradition, and causes man not to heed God’s instruction and, ultimately, to be destroyed."
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#2New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 15:31:38
@Ellanjay Said
Instead, it should be understood as a devil—an evil specter forged by hate, degeneracy, and other elemental forces in the universe.



If Communism could be thrown in that category, there a lot of other things in this world that could be as well.

Take Catholic Priests for example, and their "Secret Ledgers" documenting child sexual abuse and the institutional cover up!?

I think Communism pales in comparison.
chaski On about 13 hours ago
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#3New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 16:18:04
OH MY GOD!!!!!

The USSR is coming back!

Run for the hills!!!!



gakINGKONG On October 18, 2022




, Florida
#4New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 17:14:09
George W Bush-- rest in sheol--

"What we are dealing with is good and evil, right and wrong."


Rule of law not the law of the jungle Says George


Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#5New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 17:23:47
Well Marx and Lenin has good intentions, truly believing that elements of capitalism could result in large portions of society being at a disadvantage, due to human nature. Which is true. They really thought their solution was one that would help mankind.

It was those leaders after Lenin, such as Stalin, that parked the plan into the “socialist state” phase and turned to totalitarian regimes. Never was true communism of course.

Which is not achievable really, since it is anarchy. The solution is not to get rid of capitalism, but to install regulations that prevent free pursuit from curtailing the freedoms of others.

Marx and Lenin also believed that those in power used religion to suppress the masses and get their way.

Also true.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#6New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 21:28:35
chaski On about 13 hours ago
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#7New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 21:44:37
Perhaps I will be forgiven for not watching the video, but presently in the world there are only 5 communist countries:

China
Cuba
Lao
Vietnam
North Korea

However, to be honest and factual, Cuba and North Korea are more like dictatorships with some bureaucratic organizations that are more or less structured as they would be in a true communist state.

The "Specter of Communism" pretty much died with the the collapse of the USSR and the Westpac nations. The largest of the remaining 3 countries, China, is not trying to spread it communism in any substantive way.

Sure there are countries with varying degrees of "socialism", however they are not communist states.

In addition, even the most socialist political organizations are pretty far to the right of communism.

The fear of a looming "Specter of Communism" is actually a bit ridiculous.
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#8New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 23:11:20
@chaski Said

Perhaps I will be forgiven for not watching the video, but presently in the world there are only 5 communist countries:

China
Cuba
Lao
Vietnam
North Korea

However, to be honest and factual, Cuba and North Korea are more like dictatorships with some bureaucratic organizations that are more or less structured as they would be in a true communist state.

The "Specter of Communism" pretty much died with the the collapse of the USSR and the Westpac nations. The largest of the remaining 3 countries, China, is not trying to spread it communism in any substantive way.

Sure there are countries with varying degrees of "socialism", however they are not communist states.

In addition, even the most socialist political organizations are pretty far to the right of communism.

The fear of a looming "Specter of Communism" is actually a bit ridiculous.


I thought the same thing. Communism is dying and has been for some time now, as a failed experiment. No threat there.

Like on immigration, this is just right wing manufactured fear mongering bulls*** intent on winning people over.
chaski On about 13 hours ago
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#9New Post! Dec 01, 2018 @ 23:41:00
@Leon Said

I thought the same thing. Communism is dying and has been for some time now, as a failed experiment. No threat there.

Like on immigration, this is just right wing manufactured fear mongering bulls*** intent on winning people over.



Mostly it doesn't bother me, but I have a few friends (both academically educated and "been around the block a few times" street smart) who have lately started this nonsense about communism being a threat to the USA & the world.... always whining about "socialists", "leftists", "liberals"... etc... etc...

Funny thing is that I was a Reagan Republican. I haven't changed my political views. But now they ask how I became a "leftist"... they literally don't remember what a "leftist" was during the Cold War era... If I were younger, it would probably piss me off. As it is, I spend a good bit of time laughing at the idiocy.

...and boy to they hate it when I explain that from a political science perspective, the USA is already a socialist state (albeit Socialist-Democracy or Democratic-Socialism).
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#10New Post! Dec 02, 2018 @ 01:14:03
@chaski Said



...and boy to they hate it when I explain that from a political science perspective, the USA is already a socialist state (albeit Socialist-Democracy or Democratic-Socialism).


We have elements of socialism, such as welfare, social security, etc. But it isn’t as heavy as even other western countries, such as those in Scandinavia and Europe. And, while those countries are often called “socialist” due to these programs, by definition, they really are not either.

According to the dictionary:

Socialism is “a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.”

According to Wikipedia:

A socialist state “is a sovereign state constitutionally dedicated to the establishment of socialism.”

So obviously they are not socialist or socialist states by definition since they run on capitalism.
chaski On about 13 hours ago
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#11New Post! Dec 02, 2018 @ 01:19:55
@Leon Said

We have elements of socialism, such as welfare, social security, etc. But it isn’t as heavy as even other western countries, such as those in Scandinavia and Europe. And, while those countries are often called “socialist” due to these programs, by definition, they really are not either.

According to the dictionary:

Socialism is “a political and economic theory of social organization that advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.”

According to Wikipedia:

A socialist state “is a sovereign state constitutionally dedicated to the establishment of socialism.”

So obviously they are not socialist or socialist states by definition since they run on capitalism.



I might be wrong, but as a political science major in university, the definitions were slightly different... and nuanced.

As big a promoter of dictionaries as I am, they don't always work when dealing with the refined particulars of a given field of study... example "theory" for the lay person is not really the same as "theory" for a scientist.

Example: Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy. Even Republicans/Conservatives, to a point, do this... arguably.

None the less I get your point.
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#12New Post! Dec 02, 2018 @ 02:09:22
@chaski Said

I might be wrong, but as a political science major in university, the definitions were slightly different... and nuanced.

As big a promoter of dictionaries as I am, they don't always work when dealing with the refined particulars of a given field of study... example "theory" for the lay person is not really the same as "theory" for a scientist.

Example: Social democracy is a political, social and economic ideology that supports economic and social interventions to promote social justice within the framework of a liberal democratic polity and capitalist economy. Even Republicans/Conservatives, to a point, do this... arguably.

None the less I get your point.


Fair enough. It would just be a definition debate anyways. We both understand the political-economic systems of these countries either way.
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
Returner and proud





Penzance, United Kingdom
#13New Post! Dec 03, 2018 @ 14:45:44
Communism isn't the only threat that's rising. Here, we're starting to see almost McCarthyite witch hunts against anti-Brexit campaigners, driven by the right wing press

A Remain supporting newspaper printed this cartoon not long ago, warning of the rise of the far right in Britain.

Reply to Topic<< Previous Topic | Next Topic >>

1 browsing (0 members - 1 guest)

Quick Reply
Be Respectful of Others

      
Subscribe to topic prefs

Similar Topics
    Forum Topic Last Post Replies Views
New posts   Politics
Sun May 03, 2009 @ 21:52
28 1463
New posts   Politics
Sun Apr 05, 2015 @ 14:47
13 1034
New posts   Politics
Tue Oct 05, 2010 @ 02:57
9 866
New posts   TFS+ politics
Wed Mar 03, 2010 @ 04:36
3 766
New posts   Random
Mon Jan 18, 2010 @ 10:58
2 367