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chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#76New Post! Jul 09, 2021 @ 23:18:08
So here is a hypothetical scenario.... rough draft mind you...

> You as the president, and certain select few of your cabinet, know that OBL is dead.

> Some select few at the CIA also know, but most don't... in fact the vast majority of the U.S. Intel community doesn't know...

> Some of the ones that don't know continue to look for him, no worries... they will never find him... right?

> Then these people (or person) get what appears to be actionable intelligence that OBL is living in a particular compound in Pakistan. Keep in mind this actionable intelligence is coming from a guy "we" tortured for years, who will likely say anything to stop the torture. This guy might even think he is telling you the truth.

> This information, actionable intelligence, is reported up the chain with a request that there be a capture/kill operation.

> Now, everyone... literally the whole country thinks OBL is still alive.

> You are up for election... soon.

> Do you ignore the request, and run the risk that that becomes public knowledge and could tank your re-election campaign.

> Or do you publicize that OBL was killed 8 years ago?

>>>> Or do you authorize the mission?

After all the target, while not actually OBL, is likely one of his equally guilty henchmen... and the opportunity for gathering intelligence is actually well above the average operation.

What to do... what to do...
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#77New Post! Jul 09, 2021 @ 23:22:06
@Leon Said

Waiting for it then. Go ahead and convince me.


I'm not trying to convince you.

@Leon Said


When did you believe he died in 2003?


Shortly before November 2003. You get closer to the day by checking out when Bush stopped calling for "get him dead or alive". That is not a factor what or why... but rather it is a point in time. It is not evidence. It is just a random occurrence, arguably a slip up on the part of Bush.
Leon On March 30, 2024




San Diego, California
#78New Post! Jul 09, 2021 @ 23:34:10
Okay then.
Na On February 27, 2024




, Florida
#79New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 08:00:47
@Darkman666 Said

best way to look at this:

if Osama bin Laden was still alive last 11 years, why haven't he surface to public yet?



He's not.

Killed in 2011
Darkman666 On about 2 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#80New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 14:21:13
@Na Said

He's not.

Killed in 2011



i know he is dead. i watched in news, spents days talking about it.
Na On February 27, 2024




, Florida
#81New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 15:07:50
@Darkman666 Said

i know he is dead. i watched in news, spents days talking about it.



Barbara and I are thinking of you and wishing you moments of peace and comfort as you remember a friend. All creatures great and small. World without end. Amen.
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#82New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 15:37:23
@Na Said


Killed in 2011





Three cheers for #44!







Mission accomplished!





Darkman666 On about 2 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#83New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 16:03:47
@Na Said

Barbara and I are thinking of you and wishing you moments of peace and comfort as you remember a friend. All creatures great and small. World without end. Amen.



thanks! you do and barbara do the same!
Na On February 27, 2024




, Florida
#84New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 19:05:57
@Darkman666 Said

thanks! you do and barbara do the same!



mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#85New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 19:57:54
@chaski Said

> Bush and Cheney know, but they committed to not making it public knowledge as they didn't want to give terrorists a Martyr and "holy day of war" (yes... that is a way over simplification of the dynamics...)



Hide his death to deny a martyr over announcing American victory?

I'd more likely believe that they wanted to prolong the war to benefit the military-industrial complex.

Was it Cheney that said "we'll be there for 100 years" ... almost with a grin.
Darkman666 On about 2 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#86New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 21:51:17
@Na Said




funny, i really thought you were talking yourself, not george sr., that he is dead. do assuming that grant is buried in grant's tomb, but they be lying about that could be george washington in the tomb? rumors about george washingtion was buried under the cherry tree, would make sense. george's parents could lied about george chopped the cherry tree, and they chopped george and buried him under the tree.

ripley believe it or not!
Darkman666 On about 2 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#87New Post! Jul 10, 2021 @ 21:53:08
@Na Said




sorry about that, this sucker is still alive. does anyone miss him yet?
4d4m On December 23, 2022




4dforum.org,
#88New Post! Jul 11, 2021 @ 08:24:21
no
Na On February 27, 2024




, Florida
#89New Post! Jul 11, 2021 @ 11:02:06
@Darkman666 Said

sorry about that, this sucker is still alive. does anyone miss him yet?



Mr Bush (43) is fundamentally decent and was one of the last Republican presidents to attempt to modify conservative perception in order to win unity from his loyal opposition.

He spoke of something called "compassionate conservatism" as if "conservativism" isn't.

Dumb idea on his part but we see this only in hindsight. Never apologize to the left. That's like the Jews apologizing to the Palestinians for any aspect of their religion that might be offensive.

Well, Mr Bush was a good man and a good president and the United States did well to have him in office. Imagine of Barracko were in office on September 11, 2001. He'd be flying the billions of dollars in small unmarked bills to those responsible so as to make them less angry (think Iran.)
Na On February 27, 2024




, Florida
#90New Post! Jul 11, 2021 @ 17:02:28
@Na Said




Bush 43 also mangled the English language, but it was more purposeful or at least purposed. You could see the monkey trick and laugh at the attempt. Bush was unintentionally funny but he often could laugh at himself.

Not so much with 46.


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