Brexit

I just find it amusing that the person who said the UK wouldn't see the positive effects for a while and who said there was likely to be a short term hit is trying to argue two months in that the naysayers were wrong.

The fake Australian says whatever is convenient in the moment.

He's clearly a fraud. I can't think of any person who lives on the other side of the world who would be so obsessed with something that is doesn't materially affect them. No.... he's not Australian. He's some rabid right-wing supporter of Yaxley-Lennon (has anybody in Australia even ever heard of Stephen Yaxley-Lennon...???) probably in Luton or Watford.

Be that as it may.

Given his remarks that the entire world is rushing to do business with the City of London, it's amazing that Amsterdam has overtaken London as the world leader in share trading.... how does that happen...?

Do you notice how he never posts any supporting evidence for his claims..? It's all just hot air.......... and I doubt very much it's coming from Wagga Wagga. Somewhat closer to London methinks. Or possibly even in it.

Also, 68% of British business with Europe has been lost...... which accounts for the lorry queues in Kent being reduced. Very little traffic is going there any more, and none is coming here from the continent.

The fishing industry in Britain has been decimated. We're seeing the effects of this in Cornwall where fishing...... and also farming..... has all but ceased to exist.

Unlike the faux antipodean, I'm not shy of posting supporting evidence for my comments.



Amsterdam Overtakes London As Major Share Trading Centre in Europe

Fury At Gove As UK Loses 68% of Business With Europe

Cornish Fishermen Face Ruin Due To Brexit

I don't know s*** from shinola when it comes to Brexit.

The little I know is that Britain wants to retain their rights to self govern. They don't want to take order from Belgium or who ever runs the EU.

Britain for centuries have been been bad motherf***ers. The last 50 yrs or so they have been a bit pusifdfied

Not surprised you have trouble differentiating btw a realistic time frame for widely felt economic benefits re leaving the EU, and the exposure of the project fear campaign for what it was (and still is).

I have maintained that the economic benefits for the UK will not likely be evident for some time as they set about signing new trade agreements and pivoting away from the EU and towards the fastest growing region in the world. UK companies will also require time to adjust and take full advantage of their new opportunities. That said, some economic benefits will be felt later in the year as the UK's vastly superior vaccination programme will see their economy get a head start on the EU. More importantly, the UK's vast superior vaccination programme will save lives that may have been lost had the UK been a part of the EU's disastrous vaccination programme.

Meanwhile, all of the doom and gloom predictions of the 'naysayers' havent come to fruition.

In short we are talking about two different things. One, the time for the economic benefits to be widely felt and two, the fact that all of the project fear scenarios haven't come to pass. These are two separate things. Obviously you can't see that. So be it.

Ahh how remainers bleated that if Brexit were to happen the UK would see a mass exodus of companies leaving as the City of London's status as one of the world's leading financial capitals came to an end. Just to be different his hasn't happened. According to a recently published FOI request nearly 1,500 EU-based financial services firms have applied for permission to operate in the UK, with around 1,000 of those planning to establish their FIRST UK office. In addition to the above more than 100 retail and wholesale banks plan to move to, or boost, their presence in the UK, as well as over 400 insurance and insurer intermediary firms.

Now recently Amsterdam has overtaken the City of London as Europe’s largest share trading centre. The reason why is pretty simple. The UK recognise (offer equivalence to) the EU's financial sector but the EU haven't reciprocated. Even though the UK currently has the exact same rules etc as the EU.

The EU havent offered regulatory equivalence to the UK as it wants the Brits to accept to always be bound by all EU rules and regulations relating to the financial sector. Why? So they can control the UK's economy and try and stymie it.

Switzerland also knows only too well how intransigent and bullying the EU can be. Indeed the past couple of months have really exposed the EU for what it is, an undemocratic, bureaucratic driven protectionist racket.

Oh, just for someones information, NO one in Australia refers to Wagga Wagga as, well Wagga Wagga.

So back to the EU. Their supporters got all moist and wet in certain areas when the UK's proposed IMB was announced. They said how it would destroy the international communities faith in the UK. These same people have been very quiet re the EU's blocking legally purchased AZ vaccines from being sent to Australia. The EU happily signed off on Italy preventing a private company from fulfilling a legally binding contract with a foreign government. You think that won't make some countries around the world look at the EU a little differently? The Australian government had ordered and PAID for the vaccines which were set to be delivered and which formed an important part of the CoA's initial vaccination rollout scheme. Then at the last moment the EU in effect stopped the private company from fulfilling their legal obligation. The Italians and EU simply said they need the vaccines more than Australia and so they effectively stole them. Good one. If that wasn't enough shortly afterwards they halted the roll out of the AZ vaccine, including those which were legally Australia's.

Now the EU is threatening to stop vaccines that the UK have ordered from leaving the EU. Vaccines that require a key component which is largely manufactured in the UK. The EU are acting more and more like the CCP. It's no wonder therefore that at a time when a number of western democracies outside of the EU are pulling back from China the EU are snuggling up to them.

The EU Parliament is still to ratify the TaCA. If the UK government had a spine they would say enough is enough and walk away from the agreement themselves.

By the way, not only is the UK near on certain to join the CPTPP in the next 24 months but they will most likely end up joining the "Quad'. Being a member of both will benefit the UK and would not be possible were she still a member of the EU.

You have a very strange view of democracy. The people were asked if the wanted the UK to leave the EU and the MAJORITY said yes. I hate to break it to you but respecting the expressed wish of the majority is not a miscarriage of democracy. If that wasn't enough the party that promised to respect the result of the people's vote and 'get Brexit done' won a spanking majority at the last GE.


Hate to burst your bubble but the MAJORITY voted to leave.




Oh, and by the way, the EU is NOT Europe.


Probably in the same year a unicorn wins the Derby

Of course such a determination that 'all of the doom and gloom predictions haven't come to fruition' is dependent upon the question of 'how does one define a 'doom and gloom position' in real numbers and over what amount of time'.

As I have maintained this entire time, it's foolish to count your chickens before they hatch. It's even more foolish to justify that you have chickens in the first place based on isolated points of data.

The project fear claims were (and are) reasonably specific both in assertions and time frame...and they have proven to be nonsense. Simples


The points of data are hardly isolated. Additionally, the main reasons MOST people voted to leave the EU were NOT economic. For example, for those who voted leave the single biggest reported reason was they wanted the UK to take back control. They wanted decisions about the UK to be made in the UK. They wanted UK politicians (that they could hold to account) to be making laws for the UK. They wanted UK courts to be making the legal decisions that impact upon the people of the UK. Simply by leaving the EU (including the single market) the above was achieved. Now I wouldn't call these things chickens but feel free to count away.

By the way, the most recent poll on Brexit shows that most people still want the UK out of the EU. When you see how the EU is behaving this is hardly surprising.

Is this phoney still rambling on about something that, according to him, is happening on the other side of the world from where he (says he) is...?

Yeah.... everything is going great here. Brexit is proving a real winner. Business is going great.

Not one solitary trade deal has been struck.

The Brexiters lie to us all the time that actually, around 60 trade deals have been made, but that's not true. What has happened is that those countries with which Britain had agreements via EU membership, are allowing Britain to "rollover" those agreements until proper trade negotiations are in place. Japan have slightly altered there agreement with Britain, but that is to Japan's advantage, not ours.

So........ not only have NO trade deals been struck (something we were told there would be 60 "ready to sign the moment the flag hit the ground in Brussels" ) but what we have in reality, is a situation where those countries that Britain traded with under EU rules, can now sit back and carry on as they were before. They are under no pressure at all to make Britain any sort of priority.

So...... zero trade deals. No benefit from Brexit. And that's the nub of things. If Britain isn't getting something better than what we had before, then what was the point..?

Rather, we're worse off if you look at the amount of business we're losing with the continent. All this bullshine about "taking back control" isn't really that important with ordinary people. They couldn't give a crap about "sovrinty". That's just rubbish being spoken by those who have to have something to point at to deflect attention away from our worsening economic plight.

Shadeowen-Of-Guildford or wherever he really lives is just another English Brexiter trying some bizarre con-job to sell Brexit. It's failing. It was always going to fail.

If you want to see what the real effect of Brexit is, come to Cornwall and see the fishing boats tied up against the harbour wall. They're not out fishing. There's no point. They can't sell their catch. They've voted away their own market.

Britain is the only country in history to leave a trading bloc in order to get a worse deal than the one they had before.

That's Brexit in a nutshell.

How Brexit works...........

Europhiles may be happy to live in a land ruled by unelected, unaccountable technocrats but thankfully most Brits aren't. Hence Brexit. Here's one of the most recent examples of the EU technocrats in action:

"Export authorisations are to be refused by the Member States to countries which have a large production capacity of their own, while those countries restrict their own exports to the Union, either by law or through contractual or other arrangements concluded with vaccine manufacturers established in their territory. Member States should refuse export authorisations accordingly.”
- EU Commission, 24 Mar 2021

Now the above was a regulation created by the EU commission with no parliamentary debate. What it is doing is instructing member states to act in a manner that prevents private companies from fulfilling legal contracts with foreign governments. This is the action of a rogue state and, as I have said before, an action that has much in common with how the CCP operates and nothing in common with established international law and convention. It is interesting that the bloc so often talks about the importance of adhering to the rule of law and yet they are so ready to break it.

The EU's regulation/directive is primarily aimed at the UK. Why? Well there are a number of reasons. Firstly the EU is still pissed that the UK dared to leave the bloc. Secondly the EU has made a complete clustf^ck of their vaccine procurement programme and they are seeking to deflect in the hope people don't look too closely at the mess they have made. Matters are made worse by the fact that the UK's vaccination procurement programme has been so efficient.

What the EU's directive is doing is telling member states to effectively steal vaccines from governments like the UK and Australia and to void contracts foreign governments have made with private companies operating within the EU. This is absolutely outrageous.

We have also had the EU attacking AZ (who have honoured their contract to the EU (and who are providing their vaccine at cost) of acting, if not illegally, then immorally! Seriously WTF.

In the EU the only thing that seems to be spreading faster than covid19 is the EU's lies and campaign of misinformation. The EU for example attacked a factory in Belgium claiming it was sending vaccines to the UK (as per the contract they have with the UK government) when such vaccines ought to have been going to the EU. This false claim was made even though at the time the factory in question wasn't even authorised by the EMA to supply vaccines to the bloc!