@mrmhead Said
My son just graduated and we talked about seeing if there was anything to go back and teach (he was a TA/Tutor as undergrad) ... if it weren't such a podunk town, me may have considered it.
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But you get those cool socks .. don't you?
He just got his BA right? or did he get his masters from there?
If he does want to live in that area to "teach" having the BA from there is fine, but he will probably have to get the masters or Phd from another school. Especially if interested in tenure-track. Though teaching while finishing your own degree is normal. Amy just seemed to be "done" with all her impressive achievements, and ND was end point, not a transition point. I can see where she was tenure track, but nothing to confirm she actually earned tenure. Which is either a flag, or it means the media sources don't realize the difference. Or they think that "tenured" might be a triggering word to conservatives. So they are leaving it out, but it actually makes her look worse.
Most faculty are Phd, Law counts as Phd level, as its slightly more than a masters, but seen as less than typical doctorate, they don't really call people with a JD doctors, but they technically could...another little academic degree snobbery. Also you get your degree all from one school instead of two, in a typical master, phd Program. Like I knew if I ever had aspirations to teach at my university, I would have to get the masters or phd from somewhere else. If I did go to law school, (which was an option at one point)...If I applied for our law school, I better be prepared to practice law not teach. If teaching was an aspiration, I would be better off, applying to different law school and then coming back if I wanted to stay in our state. If I picked a different field, getting a masters somewhere else (which is what I did - I have a masters from a California School) would be the answer. So I can apply to be faculty in my library, It's just going to be that yeah, but your not a "dr." faculty. Status is insanely important sometimes, it's annoying. I have to forward that pettiest s*** to my boss, because it has to be answered by a "faculty" rather than staff, even though I know the answer to the question better than she does, since its my job to know not hers.
I'm contemplating the PhD, and I would do it my school, but it pretty much means I'd be done here. Granted I would be finishing up 25 years as staff, and having the degree paid for by benefits. So I could "retire" and do something new and basically take a year off and have a second income. That second thing could just not be teaching in higher ed my current state. Not that all PhD's teach, it's just one option.
Academia just doesn't work like the public or private sector. The rules of the game are different. That is one of the reasons why it's so hard to get in if you're not used to it. It's too easy to do the wrong thing because it sounded like a good idea at the time. Our interviewing and hiring processes are also a crazy choreographed dance. I've failed people that I know would do a good "job" because they didn't pass the rubric to get to the interview stage, and people that look good on paper, but are absolute horror shows.
Education is another weird feild like law, it's a EdD instead of a PhD in Education, so sometimes the unrelated PhD, will rank higher.
Library, the terminal degree is Masters, though there are a few schools that offer a doctorate in information science, that means that while all our faculty are tenured and all, if they don't have a PhD in something else, they can't sit on Doctoral committees, and other bs rank s*** type committees. The real power and prestige in being a faculty is in the committees and publications, or research, either your own or development of others. Teaching classes is cool and all, but literally that is lowest of the jobs on the faculty totem pole.
Certainly pays the bills, and there is nothing wrong with that. It's just not the best of the best, I'd expect to see on a life-time appointment for the highest court in the land. That's why calling her a scholar sounds so wrong, she not actually doing anything scholarly. Teaching alone is not scholarly, though many scholars also teach. It's like siting in a garage doesn't make you a car, just because some cars sit in garages.