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dookie On about 4 hours ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 09:11:39
Long ago I read this Christian theologian (I think it was Karl Barth) saying that we need to "keep our Bibles in one hand and the daily newspaper in the other."

(I suppose if we wish to push interfaith dialogue we could exchange the Bible for any other "Holy" Book, of which our world has many)

I tended to agree with him. Be relevant. Don't allow whatever faith you have to become divorced from currents events, hanging like the grin of the Cheshire Cat, suspended in mid-air without any visible means of support.

Now I'm not so sure. I've tended to fall away a bit from keeping up with the constant daily battering of "events" and "affairs" deemed current. The past week I've virtually turned off the news, barely looked at a newspaper, used the net only for personal interests.

Maybe one aspect of this could be the Hindu notion of our various ages. Later in life you retire to the forest etc etc having done your time in the world of commerce, family, whatever.

I'm 71. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. Lately, reading of the doings of our current "leadership", I find the best idea is to turn them off.

What do others think?
Jennifer1984 On about 15 hours ago
Returner and proud





Penzance, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 14:00:36
@dookie Said

Long ago I read this Christian theologian (I think it was Karl Barth) saying that we need to "keep our Bibles in one hand and the daily newspaper in the other."

(I suppose if we wish to push interfaith dialogue we could exchange the Bible for any other "Holy" Book, of which our world has many)

I tended to agree with him. Be relevant. Don't allow whatever faith you have to become divorced from currents events, hanging like the grin of the Cheshire Cat, suspended in mid-air without any visible means of support.

Now I'm not so sure. I've tended to fall away a bit from keeping up with the constant daily battering of "events" and "affairs" deemed current. The past week I've virtually turned off the news, barely looked at a newspaper, used the net only for personal interests.

Maybe one aspect of this could be the Hindu notion of our various ages. Later in life you retire to the forest etc etc having done your time in the world of commerce, family, whatever.

I'm 71. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. Lately, reading of the doings of our current "leadership", I find the best idea is to turn them off.

What do others think?



I'm 35... pretty much half your age.... and would go further than to turn them off. I'd shut them down completely, take their batteries out, encase them in ready mix concrete and drop them in the ocean directly above the Mariana Trench.

Another option is to launch them into space on a course that takes them by the most direct route out of the Solar System, with a warning beacon transmitting to any alien spacecraft that may pick them up on radar (or whatever) to tell them "Keep clear. Do not rescue. Extremely dangerous species onboard."

We may only get one shot at this. We have to be make it count.
nooneinparticular On September 04, 2020




, Hawaii
#3New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 14:46:09
I totally get that feeling, but for me personally, I'd rather have knowledge, no matter how bleak or scary, over a comforting lie. I've lived the ignorant life before and while nice, it was also a good way to get blindsided by life at your lowest points. I'd rather brace for something coming, even if the only bracing I can do is mental.
chaski On about 14 hours ago
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#4New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 15:29:54
@dookie Said

Long ago I read this Christian theologian (I think it was Karl Barth) saying that we need to "keep our Bibles in one hand and the daily newspaper in the other."



It seems to me that moat people don't actually read all of the bible, they only read short passages that are given to them by some religious leader in support of that religious leader's agenda(s).

So, having a bible in one hand is little more than a prop... one could even say that the bible has become to many (if not most) christians a graven image.

Similarly, the newspaper in the other hand makes sense, as long as one doesn't let some politically motivated person dupe you into believing his/her version of events.
dookie On about 4 hours ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#5New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 15:49:49
I think the theologian was advocating some sort of balance between faith and reality. Possibly he thought that without the daily newspaper, "faith" would be untested and drift off into some la la land.

I just know that for now I'm pretty much done with the "events of the day" and the fanfare surrounding them.
dookie On about 4 hours ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 15:58:33
@nooneinparticular Said

I'd rather have knowledge, no matter how bleak or scary, over a comforting lie.



Well, you seem to be talking about indisputable events. Knowledge about them I can cope with. But when you add the total incompetent bulls**t surrounding those events dealt out by the powers that be, the attempt to twist the meaning of them by media manipulation, I'm more inclined to pull the curtains or just pull a blanket over my head.
mrmhead On about 11 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#7New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 16:02:00
@chaski Said


So, having a bible in one hand is little more than a prop... one could even say that the bible has become to many (if not most) christians a graven image.


Say it ain't so!
dookie On about 4 hours ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#8New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 16:10:16
@chaski Said

It seems to me that moat people don't actually read all of the bible


I've pulled up the drawbridge!

dookie On about 4 hours ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#9New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 16:25:51
@Jennifer1984 Said



We may only get one shot at this.



"They lived and laughed and loved and left"

(James Joyce, from "Finnegans Wake" )


gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




, Florida
#10New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 22:04:25
@dookie Said

I'm 71. Sometimes I feel like I'm living in a parallel universe. Lately, reading of the doings of our current "leadership", I find the best idea is to turn them off.

What do others think?



I give the news three minutes. I need to know who has been assassinated or whatever major thing has happened.

The goal is to live inside out and to make my critics irrelevant.
darkman666 On about 4 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#11New Post! Jul 29, 2020 @ 22:58:54
@mrmhead Said

Say it ain't so!


does bozo have the bible in the right hand?
dookie On about 4 hours ago
Foolish Bombu





, United Kingdom
#12New Post! Jul 30, 2020 @ 06:58:24
@gakINGKONG Said

I give the news three minutes. I need to know who has been assassinated or whatever major thing has happened.

The goal is to live inside out and to make my critics irrelevant.



Three minutes seems a mite too long to me but I get your drift.

I tend not to bother with goals (the Pure Land way of "no calculation" ). Always home, but the journey goes on.
gakINGKONG On about 4 hours ago




, Florida
#13New Post! Jul 30, 2020 @ 22:43:19
@dookie Said

Three minutes seems a mite too long to me but I get your drift.

I tend not to bother with goals (the Pure Land way of "no calculation" ). Always home, but the journey goes on.



I travel but even when I'm at the house it doesn't feel home. Disease, illness, death, corruption, broken lives. This life isn't pure. Heaven on earth is different than this.
darkman666 On about 4 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#14New Post! Jul 30, 2020 @ 23:52:32
I travel but even when I'm at the house it doesn't feel home. Disease, illness, death, corruption, broken lives.

sound like if i was married, my mother-in-law moved in with us.
nooneinparticular On September 04, 2020




, Hawaii
#15New Post! Jul 31, 2020 @ 03:36:50
@dookie Said

Well, you seem to be talking about indisputable events. Knowledge about them I can cope with. But when you add the total incompetent bulls**t surrounding those events dealt out by the powers that be, the attempt to twist the meaning of them by media manipulation, I'm more inclined to pull the curtains or just pull a blanket over my head.


One of the few values I carry in my heart is that every piece of information is meaningful, even if it's false or in contention.
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