@Jennifer1984 Said
Trying to fathom the mindset of neo-nazis is way out of my league.
I think you may be surprised to find how easy they are to understand. They were people who were angry about the state of their lives and they found a group they could blame for it. Ignoring those who supported Nazism through remaining silent, I will mention in passing the many who supported them through fear, herd mentality and the "never question authority" idea (that is terrifyingly common), and move on to those who buy into and push this idea, as they are the ones who make these things possible.
What is hard to understand? People believed they were victims of injustice at the hands of a privileged group and they wanted to end the injustice. However, they did not want the end of injustice to be justice, but "social justice." Justice is what it is - justice (it punishes the individual perpetrator and assists the particular victim(s)of a specific crime). Social justice, however, is not justice. It is aimed at ending perceived grievances based on group identification, where all members of the "privileged" group are in some way guilty. In other words, it seeks to replace one injustice with another. There is some vengeance, hate and malice in there (but it is not couched in those terms).
Now, I do not know the degree to which you adhere to "social justice." I can't remember you advocating it explicitly, so I assume you do not completely buy this horror-show of a concept. However, it is a very popular view among those you align with.
You definitely agree with Nazis that certain voices should be silenced. That authoritarian, fascist bent is a thing all far left social justice types seem to share, as is, I think, the failure to understand just how morally wrong that is - or why it is so dangerous.
Just like with the original social justice warriors in Germany, bad people rise to the top of these movements. (Just to make it clear - this paragraph is explicitly NOT talking about you, it is talking about people who tend to rise to the top in movements of this kind). I think the reason for that can be found in a psychological study released awhile ago (
Top SJWs are generally lying, manipulative psychopaths ). It shows that people who buy into and use the social justice narrative to their advantage have the endearing trait of, on average, being significantly higher in negative moral traits than others (and they were studying social justice warriors of today, not the original ones from 1930s Germany). They found that most people who use it lack empathy and are incredibly Machiavellian (and many also show signs of Narcissism). They manipulate those beneath them through falsely claiming virtue and victimhood and set themselves up as moral superiors. And again, that makes sense. Most of us struggle to consider ourselves morally better than others, as we question our motivations. Psychopaths, Machiavellians and narcissists do not.
Do we see these traits play out in today's SJW types? I think we do (although you would probably disagree).
Look at Pantyfa (or ANTIFAct as they are also known
).
They claim to be tolerant anti-racists and anti-fascists but have used unprovoked violence against political opponents for years now. Studies show that, for example, many Trump supporters are afraid to say they support him because they fear violence, losing their job etc., from those on the left. The fear is reasonable - the left goes after their political opponents quite often. The source of the fear however, violence by the left, is not even slightly reasonable (unless you consider yourself morally superior to all those "evil Trump supporting "racists"" ).
Despite claiming to be tolerant and anti-racism they are remarkably quick to use racist slurs against black people who dares to defy them (not only can you find countless examples of black people pointing this out, but you can also find examples of white "tolerant" SJWs using racist slurs, kicking black people out of restaurants etc., for having their own thoughts rather than stay with the herd). They never question how eerily like the old Democrat party of the KKK they are (the party that Nazis said was too racist, believe it or not), because they know they are morally superior - just like many Nazis did.
Look at BLM for another example. No one really believes BLM is about black lives, not even BLM. If BLM cared about black people they would care about the many black children killed during their "protests." They don't though. Most people who support BLM could not even name one of those kids without looking it up, because they simply do not care. To BLM black lives only matter when they are ended in a way that pushes their lying narrative (that gives them a lot of money, and a lot of
that goes to Democrat groups, ironically).
If they were about equality, they would obviously care about the despicable way George Kirby (as Nancy Pelosi called him) died, but if they were about black lives they would also care about this:
Davon McNeal . And not just an innocent 11 year old, but the young guys who did the shooting and whose lives are now over.
Secoriea Turner was only 8.
Natalia Wallace was 7.
Royta De’Marco Giles was 8, and on and on it goes.
And they don't care. Instead they call people like me racist for wanting to protect everyone, and say Trump is a fascist for wanting to end the violence on American streets.
But it's ok. You just keep knowing that, for the first time in history, those who want to replace injustice with something other than justice, and who want to silence their critics, are on the right side of history.
Whether your side loses through being defeated, or loses through getting what they want, one thing is for sure - you are not and never will be, on the right side of history.
I think you are right on one thing though - we are too far apart to ever have meaningful discussions. You think I am evil, whereas I think you are mind numbingly ignorant of even basic facts about history. If we both thought the other was
factually wrong we could meaningfully communicate, but as I said to you a year ago if not more, we do not talk constructively with people we believe are morally evil because there is no point. You can not educate evil out of someone, but you can educate ignorance out of them.
You either silence evil people or let them spread their evil. We know which path you have chosen.