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GreatestIam2 On January 06, 2023




Ottawa, Canada
#31New Post! May 12, 2020 @ 13:05:11
@Jennifer1984 Said

I prefer to remain a lapsed Catholic.

I know what the church I was brought up in wants me to be. I know what it thinks I should believe in. I know what penalties it believes will fall upon me for not "keeping the faith".

And in the full knowledge of what I'm doing, I choose not to follow that faith.

I don't need to believe in anything as a faith in order to live what I consider to be a morally sound life.

I sleep well at night without religion and wake ready for the day ahead with my own plans in my own mind.

I care not one jot what religious people do. They go their way and I go mine. It really is that simple.

I'm perfectly at ease without religion of any sort whatsoever to get in the way of my life.


This is great for you, but what of your neighbors, friends and family?

Insert gays and women harmed by homophobic and misogynous religions to this quote. You should get an idea of what you should be doing with the homophobic and misogynous mainstream religions if you live by the golden rule.

Please get back to me with your conclusion.

Martin Niemöller
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

Regards
DL
Electric_Banana On February 05, 2024




, New Zealand
#32New Post! May 13, 2020 @ 12:43:03
@GreatestIam2 Said

You have never questioned the veracity of the laws that are imposed on you?

I find that strange.

Then again, that is what believers do and they are the majority and have settled for a genocidal god that they somehow see as good.

I think we should always keep questioning what is imposed by a second party, be it a god or a government.

Questioning the status quo is how we improve things.

Regards
DL



Oh, I didn't mean second party as in 'overseeing party' I meant more like another citizen such as myself...the guy next door. I've never had any desire to cannibalize or exploit others, like myself, also subjected to this existence and it's society.

When it comes to tossing dirt at 'The All Seeing Eye' as much as I can assume about an overseeing party I still don't have the facts concerning it. For instance the TV series Westworld, in season 3, points out something that I've been complaining about for years: "It's not about who we are but about what those running society will allow us to become." but as sinister as such an arrangement can be it could also be a blessing in a rehabilitation situation; held back intentionally to live as one of the less fortunate so as to acquire empathy and truly understand the less fortunate.

So as much as our current existence could be an exploit it could also be a very intelligent and rational Hell.
GreatestIam2 On January 06, 2023




Ottawa, Canada
#33New Post! May 13, 2020 @ 18:06:03
It is what you make it.

I see heaven.

Regards
DL
Darkman666 On about 17 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#34New Post! May 13, 2020 @ 18:24:44
@Electric_Banana Said

Oh, I didn't mean second party as in 'overseeing party' I meant more like another citizen such as myself...the guy next door. I've never had any desire to cannibalize or exploit others, like myself, also subjected to this existence and it's society.

When it comes to tossing dirt at 'The All Seeing Eye' as much as I can assume about an overseeing party I still don't have the facts concerning it. For instance the TV series Westworld, in season 3, points out something that I've been complaining about for years: "It's not about who we are but about what those running society will allow us to become." but as sinister as such an arrangement can be it could also be a blessing in a rehabilitation situation; held back intentionally to live as one of the less fortunate so as to acquire empathy and truly understand the less fortunate.

So as much as our current existence could be an exploit it could also be a very intelligent and rational Hell.



eb- i won't spoil the season 3 season finale, if you haven't seen it. but it does make sense, man is only thing can change man's mind not technology. but himself. that what i got out at the end.
Electric_Banana On February 05, 2024




, New Zealand
#35New Post! May 13, 2020 @ 22:19:42
@darkman666 Said

eb- i won't spoil the season 3 season finale, if you haven't seen it. but it does make sense, man is only thing can change man's mind not technology. but himself. that what i got out at the end.



That and also how far man has damned himself with technology.

Delores comes ashore in the 'real' world only to find they've all been suppressed, arrested and exploited as well.
Darkman666 On about 17 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#36New Post! May 13, 2020 @ 22:42:33
@Electric_Banana Said

That and also how far man has damned himself with technology.

Delores comes ashore in the 'real' world only to find they've all been suppressed, arrested and exploited as well.



at the end of season finale, caleb should take over them, humans kill her. you wonder that should been series finale of the show. you wonder this time if man is any better than his own technology. is there a lesson throughout the series, did learn from it or not?
chaski On March 28, 2024
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#37New Post! May 13, 2020 @ 23:51:01
@GreatestIam2 Said

Let’s chat about the atheist religion.


I've read the arguments before, but by definition calling atheism a religion honesty just doesn't work. It would be somewhat like saying that psychotherapy is a religion.

Just because you believe and "follow" something doesn't make it a religion. If it did, my religion would be photographing insects.

There is a difference between doing something "religiously" and something actually being a "religion".

@GreatestIam2 Said


As a Gnostic Christian, I get it from both sides. From believers who see me as an atheist and from atheists who see me as a believer.


Anyone who says that Gnostics Christians are "atheists" is either "A" just being a jackass, or "B" is an idiot.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




4dforum.org,
#38New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 05:48:09
I vote B
Electric_Banana On February 05, 2024




, New Zealand
#39New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 22:44:55
@chaski Said

I've read the arguments before, but by definition calling atheism a religion honesty just doesn't work. It would be somewhat like saying that psychotherapy is a religion.

Just because you believe and "follow" something doesn't make it a religion. If it did, my religion would be photographing insects.

There is a difference between doing something "religiously" and something actually being a "religion".



I think the proper term is "Conviction" but the Atheist Conviction isn't celebrated nor has it seen need to associate principles along with 'Atheism' that must be relayed to a group of constituents at a weekly gathering.
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#40New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 23:06:34
@Electric_Banana Said

I think the proper term is "Conviction" but the Atheist Conviction isn't celebrated nor has it seen need to associate principles along with 'Atheism' that must be relayed to a group of constituents at a weekly gathering.



Well, I did have a few AW's (Atheist Witnesses) show up at the door the other day... all dressed in their "Sunday's best clothing."

Knock... knock...

Chaski: "Who's there?"

AW guy: "Its us Atheist Witnesses, we've come to save your mind from the evils of the book. Can we come in and have a drink of Scotch and Soda while we convert you?"

Chaski: "Do you have any super cheesy cartoon pamphlets on newspaper print paper... really stupid ones...?"

AW guy: "No. We just want to get drunk with you and then twist your mind up with nonsensical arguments that don't really support or refute our position."

Chaski: "No thanks. If I want to rock that vibe I'll pour my self One Bourbon, One Scotch, and One Beer and turn on FoxNews or watch one those lame YouTube "news" links that is designed to numb the brain."





Ok... that didn't really happen, but I feel like it would have... IF atheism was a religion.
Darkman666 On about 17 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#41New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 23:48:53
Atheist Witnesses - i met years ago in airport in minnesota in 70's, no robert stack wasn't there to punch them out. damn!

in my teen years, i was going back home to st. louis from camp, about fifty campers going back to st. louis.

it was like the movie, " airplane ". it was two guys and really good looking blonde woman dress up in their outfits, and she gave us all a kiss and gave us a book of monrons. yes, not call that, it is funny is it?

my mom picked me up from airport, and we heading for home. i showed the book, she look at me. she told me that we don't believe that. we are jewish, something like told me. i like the pictures in the book, i never really read the book. i kept for awhile and throw away.

that my experiences with athesist witnesses. no, i don't believe what they are said or anything the book. i would mind go back the airport and checking out the blonde woman that kissed me again.
GreatestIam2 On January 06, 2023




Ottawa, Canada
#42New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 18:38:23
@chaski Said

I've read the arguments before, but by definition calling atheism a religion honesty just doesn't work. It would be somewhat like saying that psychotherapy is a religion.


Atheists are calling their churches, churches, and by inference, are calling their ism a religion.

If a psychiatrist follows a basic therapeutic therapy, such as Freud's, or some other system of school of thought, as shown in this link, https://www.verywellmind.com/most-influential-psychologists-2795264
then it can be said that they follow an ideology and can thus be called a religion.

Since following an ideology is a prerequisite of religion, atheism can be considered a religion, since atheists draws on philosophical ideologies to guide ideas, behaviors, and actions, like that of any religion. That is why atheist churches are called atheist churches.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On January 06, 2023




Ottawa, Canada
#43New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 18:42:32
@Electric_Banana Said

I think the proper term is "Conviction" but the Atheist Conviction isn't celebrated nor has it seen need to associate principles along with 'Atheism' that must be relayed to a group of constituents at a weekly gathering.


In some areas, 95% of the population claim to be Christians, yet only 5% go to church even once a year.

That shows how many religious are religious by association only and do not practice or know their own ideologies.

Regards
DL
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#44New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 19:08:01
@GreatestIam2 Said

Atheists are calling their churches, churches, and by inference, are calling their ism a religion.



I have met and known many atheists, though obviously not all or even most of them.

However, I have never heard any atheist calling their place(s) of meeting a "church".

Nor have I ever heard an atheist call their belief system a religion.

But, again, I don't know all atheists... just a few.
Electric_Banana On February 05, 2024




, New Zealand
#45New Post! May 29, 2020 @ 22:31:37
@GreatestIam2 Said

In some areas, 95% of the population claim to be Christians, yet only 5% go to church even once a year.

That shows how many religious are religious by association only and do not practice or know their own ideologies.

Regards
DL



I think a lot of people casually, without thought, refer to belief in some form of creation as 'Christianity'...like always asking for 'Coke' even when you mean 'Pepsi' depending on who owns the franchise.
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