@mrmhead Said
Wow! That rubber room must have very elastic walls - you're bouncing all over the place .. and I'm surprised it took you almost half a post to get to
Hillary!!
Well, let's look at what we know to be true (or should know anyway):
Somebody who was probably not a Russian breached the security of the DNC (there is no way to know it was Russians because the DNC refused to let the FBI investigate the so called hack).
A guy who probably has links to western intelligence agencies (Mifsud), approached Papadopolous of the Trump campaign, and told him about it after the event, then set up a meeting between him and Australian Diplomat Alexander Downer. Papadopolous told Downer what he had heard, and Downer told the US embassy, which was the laughable pretext for tapping him.
Carter Page was also being tapped based on evidence doctored by the FBI, even though he worked for the CIA (there was another guy in Trump's team linked to the CIA as well).
Hillary Clinton paid Steele who went to Russian government sources for drivel on Trump that no one ever thought was credible (except for Rachel Madcow, of course, but that worthless s***smear doesn't count).
Despite the contents of the dossier being so retarded retards called it retarded, the FBI lied about its validity, lied about its provenance, leaked some contents to the media and then lied about the origin of the media story to claim this as a second, unrelated, corroborating source to illegally obtain FISA warrants.
Comey went to Trump to tell him about this absurd dossier everyone knew was bulls***, but leaked it to the media first to help build momentum for an investigation that was unnecessary and predicated on illegal spying and a series of lies told in the media.
Flynn took a call with Kislyak that was normal, reasonable, not illegal and broke absolutely no law (it didn't even break protocol). Comey publicly bragged about sending FBI investigators to talk to Flynn under false pretenses, not telling him that he was being investigated (in fact they told him he did not even need to bother about having a lawyer present), and Flynn had no reason to believe he was under investigation because normally to be investigated one needs to commit a crime of some sort or at least be suspected of having done so - that was not true in the Flynn case.
According to the FBI agents that spoke to Flynn he did not lie, but he did get some facts wrong about a perfectly legal phone call that had happened weeks earlier, that the FBI had a transcript of but didn't tell him about, and that was not in any way illegal.
Obama was instrumental in the attack on Flynn, and Sally Yates is on record saying she found out about the attempt to take down Flynn when Obama was discussing using the Logan Act to go after him for, again, committing no crime at all.
Several people linked to Obama asked for Flynn's name to be unmasked, and at least one person close to Obama leaked his name to the media. The FBI threatened him that if he did not plead guilty to not committing a crime they would go after his son.
Guys like Clapper and Brennan went into the media incessantly (especially after the Helsinki meeting that they also repeatedly lied about in collusion with the media) and claimed, based on those lies (and hinting at information from the dossier of lies), that Trump was compromised by the Russians. Meanwhile, that whole time Brennan was hiding information pointing to what was obvious - Putin backed Hillary, not Trump.
Every single one of the Obama or anti Trump spastics when questioned under oath behind closed doors ALL said they had seen no evidence that Trump or anyone linked to Trump was or had colluded, conspired or coordinated with the Russians, nor had anyone from Trump's team even tried to do so.
And even the best intelligence these muppets had said that (a) The Trump team knew nothing about a so called hack of DNC emails until approached by Mifsud after the event, and (b) Putin backed Hillary.
But nah, Obamagate is not a thing. Falsely convicting members of an incoming administration, illegally spying on them by lying to courts and the media, and lying to the media for years about how there is evidence the President is colluding with an enemy happens all the time.
It is a shame Trump wouldn't do that to Biden. How hilarious would that be - watching Biden shart again as he realised even more of his corruption was being laid bare... The rapid about turn on FISA abuses by the media may legitimately cause some of them to die from whiplash too, which could only be a good thing.
What are your thoughts on the phone calls leaked by the Ukrainian government that show Quid Pro Joe is as guilty as one can be of the crime Trump was impeached for not being guilty of? I thought it was hilarious.