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bob_the_fisherman On January 30, 2023
Anatidaephobic





, Angola
#676New Post! May 14, 2020 @ 20:22:22
@chaski Said

Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!

Orangemanbad

Obamagate is not real.

Obama was innocent


Still unhinged, I see.
bob_the_fisherman On January 30, 2023
Anatidaephobic





, Angola
#677New Post! May 14, 2020 @ 21:43:00
@mrmhead Said

It's all Obamagate!!


It is the seeming psychosis of the Trumptydumptys that I find most intriguing.

At what point did you realise that no abuse of power was unwarranted if it helps my side win?

Just imagine if Trump was to start setting up Democrats and investigating them for committing no crime, and using threats against their family to get them to plead guilty to not committing a crime. If he did act that way, he could finally be impeached for a legitimate reason.

Should he be spying on Creepy Joe's campaign? Considering how much money his drug addled son gets from China, maybe he really should. After all, unlike Russia, China is a serious threat. And unlike Trump with Russia, Biden's relationship with China is worthy of the kind of probing media tongues give to Democrat politicians.

Would you think that's ok though?

Of course you wouldn't. There is far more grounds for spying on the Democrats than there was for spying on Trump, but, who cares, right?

None of us are surprised to find that the Obama government redefined what corrupt means in a modern, First World democracy - it was obvious to anyone who paid attention. But it is funny isn't it? Democrat supporters, from the average person like you guys, as well as Hollowood, the Mainstream media and big tech could not tell that Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Hillary, Obama etc., were as guilty as it was painfully obvious that they were.

Jussie Smollet was more credible.
The Indian war veteran who never went to war was more credible.
The Trump hater the media claimed was a Trump supporter who watched her husband die because they thought Trump said to drink fish tank cleaner was more credible.
The claim that Trump said to inject bleach is more credible.
The claim that Trump called white supremacists marching in Charlottesville "fine people" was more credible...

What is it with you guys?

What part of your brain is so infected by the Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! that it no longer functions?

Is it credulity that dies?
Rationality?
Objectivity (that certainly does)... not a question, just a statement of fact.
Does compassion also die?
Are you unable to see your political opponents as human?
What is it?
And more importantly, perhaps, is there a medication one can take to remedy this affliction?
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#678New Post! May 14, 2020 @ 22:23:03
@bob_the_fisherman Said

It is the seeming psychosis of the Trumptydumptys that I find most intriguing.

At what point did you realise that no abuse of power was unwarranted if it helps my side win?

Just imagine if Trump was to start setting up Democrats and investigating them for committing no crime, and using threats against their family to get them to plead guilty to not committing a crime. If he did act that way, he could finally be impeached for a legitimate reason.

Should he be spying on Creepy Joe's campaign? Considering how much money his drug addled son gets from China, maybe he really should. After all, unlike Russia, China is a serious threat. And unlike Trump with Russia, Biden's relationship with China is worthy of the kind of probing media tongues give to Democrat politicians.

Would you think that's ok though?

Of course you wouldn't. There is far more grounds for spying on the Democrats than there was for spying on Trump, but, who cares, right?

None of us are surprised to find that the Obama government redefined what corrupt means in a modern, First World democracy - it was obvious to anyone who paid attention. But it is funny isn't it? Democrat supporters, from the average person like you guys, as well as Hollowood, the Mainstream media and big tech could not tell that Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Hillary, Obama etc., were as guilty as it was painfully obvious that they were.

Jussie Smollet was more credible.
The Indian war veteran who never went to war was more credible.
The Trump hater the media claimed was a Trump supporter who watched her husband die because they thought Trump said to drink fish tank cleaner was more credible.
The claim that Trump said to inject bleach is more credible.
The claim that Trump called white supremacists marching in Charlottesville "fine people" was more credible...

What is it with you guys?

What part of your brain is so infected by the Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee! that it no longer functions?

Is it credulity that dies?
Rationality?
Objectivity (that certainly does)... not a question, just a statement of fact.
Does compassion also die?
Are you unable to see your political opponents as human?
What is it?
And more importantly, perhaps, is there a medication one can take to remedy this affliction?


Wow! That rubber room must have very elastic walls - you're bouncing all over the place .. and I'm surprised it took you almost half a post to get to Hillary!!
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#679New Post! May 14, 2020 @ 22:27:03
@bob_the_fisherman Said

At what point did you realise that no abuse of power was unwarranted if it helps my side win?


That realization came to me over the course of the past 3 years that that is the position of the trumpsterf*** minions.

Personally, I prefer integrity.
chaski On March 28, 2024
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#680New Post! May 14, 2020 @ 22:29:51
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Still unhinged, I see.



Obama Derangement Syndrome mixed with Trump Dementia Syndrome.

chaski On March 28, 2024
Stalker





Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#681New Post! May 14, 2020 @ 22:30:59
@bob_the_fisherman Said

....Creepy Joe's campaign?



And there it is... Biden Derangement Syndrome...

And in the same post with Obama Derangement Syndrome, Comey Derangement Syndrome, Clapper Derangement Syndrome, Brennan Derangement Syndrome, and Hillary Derangement Syndrome.

mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#682New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 01:30:59
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell conceded Thursday night that he was wrong to claim that the Obama administration had not left behind a plan to deal with a pandemic in the US.

"I was wrong. They did leave behind a plan, so I clearly made a mistake in that regard," McConnell said during an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier.



Here, let me finish that thought for you Mitch:

But, as you know, anything that touched the Obama Administration is bad and we must purge it from existence. So if there was a plan ...say, a booklet, maybe you should check the incinerator. hehe
Darkman666 On about 15 hours ago




Saint Louis, Missouri
#683New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 02:21:51
i am surprise, maybe not surprise, republicans has come up from their mentor, ronald reagan. it seen he was only republican president, knew about the economy. look at reaganomics, he make americans thought he was so brilliant and his economic statistic plans for americans still screw us now.
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#684New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 03:09:25
@chaski Said

We should have been ready this time.

The last president left a number of things in place that would have helped. (I can give you a list if you want.)

Some will argue that was was left behind wasn't very good.

Ok... then why didn't the present administration take what was left and make it better?

What was left was scrapped... Ok...it was crap... let's say it was complete crap...

>>> Then why didn't the present Administration come up with a better plan? <<<

And this stuff about stopping travel from China (even if it was 100% correct and it was not) was at best like the French's "Maginot Line"... it may have slowed things down a little, but wasn't comprehensive enough and actually did very little if anything at all.



@bob_the_fisherman Said

Still unhinged, I see.


I guess Senate Majority leader Mitch McConnell has derangement also... no doubt he is one of Obama’s deep state Obamagate operatives...

"I was wrong. They did leave behind a plan, so I clearly made a mistake in that regard," McConnell said during an interview with Fox News' Bret Baier.



4d4m On December 23, 2022




4dforum.org,
#685New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 05:28:34
@chaski Said

Or the plan has in fact worked.

Think about how many more people would have been infected... and thus how many more of the most vulnerable would have died, if "we" had done nothing.

If you don't get it take a look at Italy... deaths per 51 deaths per 100K people. Where is in the USA it is 25 deaths per 100K people.

So, our response seems to have cut the deaths per 100k in half... or instead of 82,356 deaths "we" might have had as many as 164,712 deaths.

And, if we open up too soon and a second wave hits we could easily see the total death count reach or pass 250,000 deaths ... the likely victims of that would continue to be primarily from the most vulnerable.

So... no... you are mistaken... in fact the quarantining has likely worked.

And for anyone who wants to say, "is it worth the damage to the economy?" Ask yourself this question >>> "Would I sacrifice anyone in my family or myself?"

If the answer is "No. I would not sacrifice my mother, father, etc... nor would I willingly sacrifice myself." The any argument to open up the economy is one based on hypocrisy.


The Italians have a demographic difference. 25% of their population is over the age of 65. They also have a consistently higher death rate from the common flu than other nations. Here's a story from TownHall that discusses this issue.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




4dforum.org,
#686New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 05:37:10
The republican party has been interesting for the past few decades. I get a kick how they claim the democrats are screwing up the economy, but after the Clinton and Obama administrations the country was actually out of deficit spending, as soon as another republican president is in office we're back in the hole.

I get a kick out of all the rhetoric and even right wing conspiracy theories that claim the socialist threat is from the left for the same reason.
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
The Queen of Random

Administrator




Emerald City, United States (g
#687New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 07:31:07
@4d4m Said

The Italians have a demographic difference. 25% of their population is over the age of 65. They also have a consistently higher death rate from the common flu than other nations. Here's a story from TownHall that discusses this issue.



I wouldn’t trust the opinions in that article since they are outright praising the Swedish model. Which has one one the highest death rate per capita in the world. At over 12%. In comparison that’s twice as bad as the us rate. I mean Italy is high too at 14% but the fact that the author in that article made such a biased and ludicrous claim that Sweden was awesome makes me distrust their logic. That and it’s obviously an opinion piece.

Sweden’s model is sacrificing the old and weak in nursing homes and literally letting them die in facilities with unskilled workers, little to no PPE, while the rest of the country runs around eating cheese and drinking wine or whatever is business as usual.
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#688New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 14:02:03
@4d4m Said

The Italians have a demographic difference. 25% of their population is over the age of 65. They also have a consistently higher death rate from the common flu than other nations. Here's a story from TownHall that discusses this issue.



And the Italians didn’t put in place the measures that we did, which resulted in their old people getting infected and many dying. Thanks for verifying my point.

If you don’t like the Italy comparison, go with Belgium.. or Sweden.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




4dforum.org,
#689New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 17:48:57
@DiscordTiger Said

I wouldn’t trust the opinions in that article since they are outright praising the Swedish model. Which has one one the highest death rate per capita in the world. At over 12%. In comparison that’s twice as bad as the us rate. I mean Italy is high too at 14% but the fact that the author in that article made such a biased and ludicrous claim that Sweden was awesome makes me distrust their logic. That and it’s obviously an opinion piece.

Sweden’s model is sacrificing the old and weak in nursing homes and literally letting them die in facilities with unskilled workers, little to no PPE, while the rest of the country runs around eating cheese and drinking wine or whatever is business as usual.


I'm not praising the article or judging on any basis. I'm using it to point out the elderly demographics of Italy and stats on death rates of past flu seasons. The point wasn't to promote or demote the opinion of the virologist.
4d4m On December 23, 2022




4dforum.org,
#690New Post! May 15, 2020 @ 17:50:15
@chaski Said

And the Italians didn’t put in place the measures that we did, which resulted in their old people getting infected and many dying. Thanks for verifying my point.

If you don’t like the Italy comparison, go with Belgium.. or Sweden.



Italians put in more strict measures than we did and had a patriotic moment singing with each other from their balconies. hmm maybe that's what did it.
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