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bob_the_fisherman On January 30, 2023
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, Angola
#93New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 10:35:21
@chaski Said

"The allegation of abuse of power stems from Trump's decision to withhold roughly $400 million of congressionally approved military aid from Ukraine until the country announced an investigation into former Vice President Joe Biden, a political rival."


Oh. So, what you're saying is that Trump was impeached for a thing that never happened. Can't argue with you there.

But on the subject of Biden being a criminal of epic proportions, what is your opinion on Biden withholding funding from the Ukraine until the guy leading the investigation into Burisma (the company ran by a murderous criminal that paid large sums of money to Joe's drug addled son for no reason), was fired?

Should that obvious criminal conduct be of concern to the people of the US?
Electric_Banana On February 05, 2024




, New Zealand
#95New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 12:21:47
Well America has done well for itself no matter who has taken office so whether or not Trump still in or out next election really doesn't matter.
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#96New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 13:43:15
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Oh. So, what you're saying is that Trump was impeached for a thing that never happened. Can't argue with you there.

But on the subject of Biden being a criminal of epic proportions, what is your opinion on Biden withholding funding from the Ukraine until the guy leading the investigation into Burisma (the company ran by a murderous criminal that paid large sums of money to Joe's drug addled son for no reason), was fired?

Should that obvious criminal conduct be of concern to the people of the US?


The corruption in Burisma was before Biden was on the board.
The guy "leading the investigation" wasn't. Wasn't doing anything about corruption, which is why the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY wanted him out.

The money was withheld until his little caper was busted by the whistle blower. Once word got out, the money was released.

Calendars help.

If a kidnapper doesn't get the ransom and the hostage is freed, does that mean he didn't commit a crime?
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#97New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 14:04:06
And I wonder if Giuliani's hard-on about the Bidens and Burisma was fueled (haha) by his, and his Russian thugs attempts to cut a deal with Burisma's competitor...
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#98New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 16:05:23
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Oh. So, what you're saying is that Trump was impeached for a thing that never happened. Can't argue with you there.


Incorrect. There is actually no argument that "it" did or did not happen. The only argument is whether it was right or wrong.

At face value, it appears that Trump came very close to violating a U.S. law known as the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act, and possibly some other crimes as well.

However, whether or not his actions reached the level of a crime is irrelevant. Felony criminal acts are not needed for impeachment.

@bob_the_fisherman Said

But on the subject of Biden being a criminal of epic proportions, what is your opinion on Biden withholding funding from the Ukraine until the guy leading the investigation into Burisma (the company ran by a murderous criminal that paid large sums of money to Joe's drug addled son for no reason), was fired?

Should that obvious criminal conduct be of concern to the people of the US?


1st - Your above noted "facts" don't seem to match reality.

2nd - While one could easily say that Bidan's actions were wrong, Biden did not tell Ukraine that international funding from the USA was dependent on the Ukraine investigating any citizens of the USA (let a lone a politician running for office).

3rd - Biden was a Vice President not the President.

4th - I would go on and continue to demonstrate to you that the two situations are more in contrast than comparison, but won't waste my time as you have clearly shown a bias towards Trump to the point than nothing he does is viewed by you as wrong.

So I will only close by saying that I would be very happy for Biden to be fully investigated and if found guilty of any crime he should be put in jail. As to impeachment, Biden is not in office so that would be meaningless.

On the other hand, If you think that Biden clearly broke the law, you should be equally appalled by Trump and thinking that he broke the law.

But you won’t. You have two sets of standards the politicians you like it once said the politicians you don’t like it the other side.
MisterX On August 10, 2022




Saint Petersburg,
#99New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 17:08:38
@DiscordTiger Said

Dude, are you really library d*** measuring with a academic librarian at research library? Even my personal library I had to get for my political science/criminology/library degrees is huge because they are not worth reselling on the used market. (I take notes in them) add all the american studies courses I’ve taken over the past twenty years for “fun” it’s quite the collection.

Besides I also know owning a book doesn’t mean people understand it. Much like much of this conversation. Your posts are just a series of insults and anger rather than discussion.


Jump all over this opportune moment, to make yourself big, and make me small.
You are a clown in my estimation; and I don't think that you have ever been in a fight; not intellectually or physically

Where would you like to start? I have been meaning to read Engels or Feurerbach, would that be a good starting point?
So, if that is not your cup of tea, then pick a topic.

I do have to be interested in it though, so don't choose some dimwit subject.
Would you like me to pick it? OK, I can do that.

I am at a library with databases, if you want to pluck up something from a DB.
But keep it interesting, I hate boring tripe.
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
The Queen of Random

Administrator




Emerald City, United States (g
#100New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 17:38:06
@MisterX Said

Jump all over this opportune moment, to make yourself big, and make me small.
You are a clown in my estimation; and I don't think that you have ever been in a fight; not intellectually or physically

Where would you like to start? I have been meaning to read Engels or Feurerbach, would that be a good starting point?
So, if that is not your cup of tea, then pick a topic.

I do have to be interested in it though, so don't choose some dimwit subject.
Would you like me to pick it? OK, I can do that.

I am at a library with databases, if you want to pluck up something from a DB.
But keep it interesting, I hate boring tripe.


Again more anger and insults. I don’t play that way. I’m not interested in that type of conversation.

Have a happy holidays.

ETA:oh and read my next post too.
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
The Queen of Random

Administrator




Emerald City, United States (g
#101New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 17:58:45
@MisterX Said

Jump all over this opportune moment, to make yourself big, and make me small.
You are a clown in my estimation; and I don't think that you have ever been in a fight; not intellectually or physically

Where would you like to start? I have been meaning to read Engels or Feurerbach, would that be a good starting point?
So, if that is not your cup of tea, then pick a topic.

I do have to be interested in it though, so don't choose some dimwit subject.
Would you like me to pick it? OK, I can do that.

I am at a library with databases, if you want to pluck up something from a DB.
But keep it interesting, I hate boring tripe.



@DiscordTiger Said

Again more anger and insults. I don’t play that way. I’m not interested in that type of conversation.

Have a happy holidays.


Actually dude, I know your new. TFS is a bit like an old family most of us have been chatting and shooting the s*** in topics for like a decade. I’m not trying to be a c*** about anything, really I’m not. I’m cool to just chat about s***. I don’t like arguing and insulting for the sake or insulting. I do have a potty mouth though, so it’s not that the language offends me. It’s the intent that I’d just care not to deal with. Just getting to the point in life I need to ration the f***s the I have to give.
Like I said we are like a family here, you’re new I hope you join in and stay you sound smart. Pull up a chair and chat. It’s not a contest.

Peeps here are really cool. It’s like Christmas with the family and all the drinking.

Ok like family and this thread, some are not always so cool but we love them anyway.

Seriously, I’m trying to be nice I realize sometimes my quick posts sound extra snarky. But it’s really not my intention.
MisterX On August 10, 2022




Saint Petersburg,
#102New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 19:17:44
@DiscordTiger Said

Actually dude, I know your new. TFS is a bit like an old family most of us have been chatting and shooting the s*** in topics for like a decade. I’m not trying to be a c*** about anything, really I’m not. I’m cool to just chat about s***. I don’t like arguing and insulting for the sake or insulting. I do have a potty mouth though, so it’s not that the language offends me. It’s the intent that I’d just care not to deal with. Just getting to the point in life I need to ration the f***s the I have to give.
Like I said we are like a family here, you’re new I hope you join in and stay you sound smart. Pull up a chair and chat. It’s not a contest.

Peeps here are really cool. It’s like Christmas with the family and all the drinking.

Ok like family and this thread, some are not always so cool but we love them anyway.

Seriously, I’m trying to be nice I realize sometimes my quick posts sound extra snarky. But it’s really not my intention.


OK. I am easy to please, and I am not being passive-aggressive either.

It is just that I don't take crap from anybody for long; and I have gotten pretty quick on the trigger, over the last 2 years.

I look like a bum, because I dress very casually; and here in Saint Petersburg, you are what you appear to be. These clowns have really fried me, and I am ready to fight, at the drop of a hat.

Please forgive me, I was mistaken to challenge you.

[But I will read Engels and Feurbach, before I am done. I am like Patton in that way, I read my enemies books. And like Jesus taught, I pray for my enemies.]

God Bless You, and may He give you peace on this Christmas.

PS: I am the most easy going, and loving man that I know; I give bums on the street $10, because I was on the street once myself. And, I am subject to doing that at any time, I do not have a limit, except what I set for myself.

PSS: bad health has plagued me for 20 years, and it has changed me at a basic level. I can come off as angry, and sometimes I really am. But I am not angry at everything; I am an ex-Hippie who got his head handed to him, by the world.
bob_the_fisherman On January 30, 2023
Anatidaephobic





, Angola
#103New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 19:52:40
@chaski Said

Incorrect. There is actually no argument that "it" did or did not happen. The only argument is whether it was right or wrong.

At face value, it appears that Trump came very close to violating a U.S. law known as the Corrupt Foreign Practices Act, and possibly some other crimes as well.

However, whether or not his actions reached the level of a crime is irrelevant. Felony criminal acts are not needed for impeachment.



1st - Your above noted "facts" don't seem to match reality.

2nd - While one could easily say that Bidan's actions were wrong, Biden did not tell Ukraine that international funding from the USA was dependent on the Ukraine investigating any citizens of the USA (let a lone a politician running for office).

3rd - Biden was a Vice President not the President.

4th - I would go on and continue to demonstrate to you that the two situations are more in contrast than comparison, but won't waste my time as you have clearly shown a bias towards Trump to the point than nothing he does is viewed by you as wrong.

So I will only close by saying that I would be very happy for Biden to be fully investigated and if found guilty of any crime he should be put in jail. As to impeachment, Biden is not in office so that would be meaningless.

On the other hand, If you think that Biden clearly broke the law, you should be equally appalled by Trump and thinking that he broke the law.

But you won’t. You have two sets of standards the politicians you like it once said the politicians you don’t like it the other side.


So, just to clarify. If Trump asked a foreign leader about corruption involving a Democrat Trump has committed a crime? Is that your honest opinion?

Biden is on record quite happily telling a doting audience of loyal fans about how he blackmailed Ukranian leaders into ending the Burisma investigation or lose 1 billion dollars. Why, specifically, was it wrong for Trump to ask about it?

There was no quid pro quo.

Ukraine got the money without so much as even a promise that an investigation will be launched.

I don't have double standards on this issue. The Democrats, from Stelter and Maddow right through to retreads like AOC and the Squad and the gutless old criminal cartel of Pelosi, Schiff for brains etc., have all been desperate to get at Trump since their voter fraud was not enough to steal the election.

We must not pretend any more. The time for games is over children.
bob_the_fisherman On January 30, 2023
Anatidaephobic





, Angola
#104New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 19:57:20
@mrmhead Said

The corruption in Burisma was before Biden was on the board.
The guy "leading the investigation" wasn't. Wasn't doing anything about corruption, which is why the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY wanted him out.

The money was withheld until his little caper was busted by the whistle blower. Once word got out, the money was released.

Calendars help.

If a kidnapper doesn't get the ransom and the hostage is freed, does that mean he didn't commit a crime?


Remind me again, please, of Hunter Biden's specific skill set that saw him being paid ten of thousands of dollars to sit on the board of a company ran by a very corrupt cartel of Ukranian thugs and henchmen?
chaski On March 28, 2024
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#105New Post! Dec 24, 2019 @ 20:11:06
@bob_the_fisherman Said

So, just to clarify. If Trump asked a foreign leader about corruption involving a Democrat Trump has committed a crime? Is that your honest opinion?


While your description of what Trump did is lacking details: Yes, it is quite possible that Trump committed a crime, I will explain in a 2nd posting... not that you will use your brains when assessing it.


@bob_the_fisherman Said

Biden is on record quite happily telling a doting audience of loyal fans about how he blackmailed Ukranian leaders into ending the Burisma investigation or lose 1 billion dollars. Why, specifically, was it wrong for Trump to ask about it?


That isn't exactly what Biden did, but as I have stated before: He should be investigated by U.S. investigative agencies based on any allegations, and if appropriate put him in jail... but not investigated by foreign countries for some crime not relevant to the USA and at the direction of a U.S. President to a foreign president.


@bob_the_fisherman Said

There was no quid pro quo.


Yes there was.

However, a "quid pro quo" is not needed for an impeachment.

@bob_the_fisherman Said

Ukraine got the money without so much as even a promise that an investigation will be launched.


That is like saying that a bank robber who was stopped in the act of robbing a bank didn't get the money so didn't do anything wrong.

@bob_the_fisherman Said

I don't have double standards on this issue.


Yes. In fact you do. Saying that you don't is meaning less. You give Trump a pass for what you won't give Biden a pass for.

> Hypocritical <
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