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Proof of god is a moral question. Do you see the morals shown for god as good or evil?

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GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#1New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 00:18:49
Proof of god is a moral question. Do you see the morals shown for god as good or evil?

Religions tout themselves as being the final word in moral issues, even though secular law has rejected as too barbaric most of those laws. Not that they were original to Christianity as many of the older traditions had variants of the same laws.

To me, a moral god would cure and never kill. That is the position Jesus took towards the non-believers.

Jesus said to love all people including your enemies and if Jesus is Yahweh then he too must love all and save all just as Jesus would.

Jesus would say that God killing instead of curing is evil.

Jesus would say that God curing instead of killing is good.

If god cures instead of killing then there is no hell as a good god or Jesus would have no use for purposeless torture and death.

Thoughts?

Regards
DL
bob_the_fisherman On November 15, 2019
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, Angola
#2New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 00:38:04
Speaking from my limited human perspective I agree. Hell is impossible to reconcile with the idea of a god who calls on humans to forgive everyone so we can 'be like god' when we're told he does not forgive everyone, but tortures some people eternally for no purpose.

chaski On about 5 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#3New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 01:20:19
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Speaking from my limited human perspective I agree. Hell is impossible to reconcile with the idea of a god who calls on humans to forgive everyone so we can 'be like god' when we're told he does not forgive everyone, but tortures some people eternally for no purpose.




It's easy to reconcile. You just have to except that the God of Abraham is a myth.

Not god, but the god of the Bible... the god of twisted and divergent "Christian" sects.

The kingdom of god is already within you.
mrmhead On about 2 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#4New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 01:46:40
@GreatestIam2 Said

To me, a moral god would cure and never kill.


Or maybe he's just not as all powerful as purported.
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#5New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 12:55:40
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Speaking from my limited human perspective I agree. Hell is impossible to reconcile with the idea of a god who calls on humans to forgive everyone so we can 'be like god' when we're told he does not forgive everyone, but tortures some people eternally for no purpose.



The right view.

A small correction.

Not eternal torture but a second death when the whole mess is dumped into the lake of fire.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#6New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 12:57:41
@chaski Said

It's easy to reconcile. You just have to except that the God of Abraham is a myth.

Not god, but the god of the Bible... the god of twisted and divergent "Christian" sects.

The kingdom of god is already within you.


That is Gnostic Christian talk.

Are you ready to be hated by Christians and Muslims?
There are quite of few of those bigots around.

Regards
DL
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#7New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 12:59:29
@mrmhead Said

Or maybe he's just not as all powerful as purported.


You are correct.

The incompetent fool can't even do what we can which is to be here and reproduce true.

All god can produce is a half breed chimera god with mostly poor morals.

Regards
DL
chaski On about 5 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#8New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 14:21:49
@GreatestIam2 Said

That is Gnostic Christian talk.

Are you ready to be hated by Christians and Muslims?
There are quite of few of those bigots around.

Regards
DL



I've been saying this sort of thing my entire time on TFS (since 2006...and longer out in the real world).

However, as soon as I also tell a "christian" to read his/her holy book (aka the Bible) and learn for themselves, I am viewed as "wrong" and/or evil and/or feeble minded and/or a religious bigot and/or opinionated and/or the voice of Satan and/or immature (well that one might be right :lol.... etc...
mrmhead On about 2 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#9New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 14:40:55
@chaski Said

I've been saying this sort of thing my entire time on TFS (since 2006...and longer out in the real world).

However, as soon as I also tell a "christian" to read his/her holy book (aka the Bible) and learn for themselves, I am viewed as "wrong" and/or evil and/or feeble minded and/or a religious bigot and/or opinionated and/or the voice of Satan and/or immature (well that one might be right :lol.... etc...


Did Julia Child or Gordon Ramsay read the Betty Crocker Cookbook?

Fully?
Cover-to-Cover?
chaski On about 5 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#10New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 14:54:45
@mrmhead Said

Did Julia Child or Gordon Ramsay read the Betty Crocker Cookbook?

Fully?
Cover-to-Cover?


The Betty Crocker Cookbook is the holy book of kitchen infidels.
GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#11New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 20:45:29
@chaski Said

I've been saying this sort of thing my entire time on TFS (since 2006...and longer out in the real world).

However, as soon as I also tell a "christian" to read his/her holy book (aka the Bible) and learn for themselves, I am viewed as "wrong" and/or evil and/or feeble minded and/or a religious bigot and/or opinionated and/or the voice of Satan and/or immature (well that one might be right :lol.... etc...


Been there buddy.

All we can do is keep trying to educate them but sheeple are mentally lazy. If they were not, the vile mainstream religions would have died out many years ago.

All we can do is try to find the biggest forums so as to reach more ears.

I have noted over time that there seems to be less activity on these sites.

We are either winning or the religious are just shutting down and ignoring us for making them look as they are.

Keep on trucking buddy.

Regards
DL
bob_the_fisherman On November 15, 2019
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, Angola
#12New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 21:14:43
@chaski Said

I've been saying this sort of thing my entire time on TFS (since 2006...and longer out in the real world).

However, as soon as I also tell a "christian" to read his/her holy book (aka the Bible) and learn for themselves, I am viewed as "wrong" and/or evil and/or feeble minded and/or a religious bigot and/or opinionated and/or the voice of Satan and/or immature (well that one might be right :lol.... etc...


Hmm, I have never called you any of those things (well, I've said you're wrong at times, but then I say we're all wrong at times, including me).

I think I'm a Christian of some kind...
mrmhead On about 2 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#13New Post! Jul 09, 2019 @ 22:20:03
So did "this" god kill all the Greek/Roman gods and goddesses?

Or did we humans just "evolve" into monotheism?

It's seems there were some great times and great stories when there were more of them.
chaski On about 5 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#14New Post! Jul 10, 2019 @ 04:21:09
@bob_the_fisherman Said

Hmm, I have never called you any of those things...



True... but your are torn between a fear of me and a love for my hairy legs protruding from a short tight and high blue skirt.

GreatestIam2 On October 17, 2019




Ottawa, Canada
#15New Post! Jul 10, 2019 @ 20:18:20
@mrmhead Said

So did "this" god kill all the Greek/Roman gods and goddesses?

Or did we humans just "evolve" into monotheism?

It's seems there were some great times and great stories when there were more of them.


I would say that we devolved into monotheism, as Christians could not do it without putting three heads into one a hole of a god.

Regards
DL
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