@bob_the_fisherman Said
Yes, I agree that race based politics and calls for social justice are not "progressive," however, now that you are also a Nazi, do you think Nazism is on the left or right?
Ah, I'm a Nazi now am I? Even by your own warped definition of the Right and Left, I still wouldn't fall under that label. Tell me how a centrist Libertarian becomes, based on your own terminology, an Authoritarian Left wing extremist under your definitions, hm? I was under the impression that you considered yourself a centrist Libertarian. If that's the case, wouldn't that make the initial test spot on, lumping you in together with Ghandi and Hitler if it does the same for me?
As to your question, I already answered that. Economically centrist and heavily authoritarian.
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With all means of production brought to heel under the jackboot of government - definitely not a right wing idea.
Like today's "progressive" purveyors of race based social justice, Hitler was happy for corporations to remain privately owned, as long as they do what they're told.
And entrepreneurship in Nazi Germany was always considered subservient to the state.
So a version of Communism allows for private ownership and entrepreneurship? Is that the story you're going with? So Communism both does and doesn't allow for private ownership and entrepreneurship? And Nazi Germany employed a type of Communism in which such things were still allowed? What is the name of this type of Communism that Nazi Germany employed?
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Hitler was clear that the collective good outweighed the good of the individual (you can find quotes from him stating this almost exactly).
And that's a purely Left leaning ideal is it? Does that make Trump's tariff wars a Left leaning or a Right leaning policy?
You're saying that if the Government exerts ANY control, it is automatically a left leaning policy? So does that make border control a Left leaning policy? But wait, you've been on here decrying the Left's porous border policy that is 'actively destroying the West', so how can the Left have both a porous border policy and a controlling one?
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How strong is the union movement in the average socialist state? When the government has control of the means of production (as happened in Germany for the most part), a union is either in lockstep with, or opposing the government that acts for the "good of the people."
The left does not countenance such folly.
So a union is either working with or against the government. This is true, but it means nothing. As to the political power of the unions, that depends largely on that pesky democracy principle, and as such any power they have, greater than being allowed to exist, is entirely reliant on the voting population. Their relative strength compared to each other means nothing. Now this would be different if we were talking about communist countries, but we aren't. We're talking about socialist ones.
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I suppose this depends how we define right, left and centre economically.
Right wing economics is generally leaning towards a _laissez faire_ model (that I oppose). We can call Hitler's model many things, but not that.
Right wing economics is not just about a laissez faire marketplace. In fact, I'd argue that it's just a consequence of the Libertarian's dislike of regulation in general and not an end goal of Right wing economics. Right wing economics is concerned chiefly with the operation of business both small and large. This branch of economics is concerned chiefly with the maintaining of a
competitive market, not a free one. Even at the, in their eyes, short term cost of poorer working conditions and lower wages. Contrast this with Left economic policy which places emphasis on worker well being and wages, even if it might not be the healthiest thing for the company at large.
These two schools of thought stem from two very different but fundamental beliefs about who drives the economy. The Right believes that it is ultimately the corporations that drive the economy, and as such give them as much support to do their business as they can. The Left believes it is consumers and workers that drive the economy, and consequentially they strive to support workers and consumers.
Let me ask you something. Is corporate welfare a Left leaning or a Right leaning economic policy? Is the military-industrial complex a Left leaning or a Right leaning economic institution? Is providing support for small businesses so they don't get crushed under big business a Left or Right leaning policy? Is trust and monopoly busting a Left or Right leaning policy?
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To me he was just another branch of communism, like Mussolini and the fascist movement.
What you believe about facts is irrelevant to whether or not they are facts. I believe you've said this yourself before.