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DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
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#16New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 16:24:09
@Erimitus Said

I don't believe a spontaneous abortion could be considered illegal. And ...and a DandC would be necessary and legal and ...and thank you God for my Y chromosome.


I don’t think it should be either, but all miscarriages will have to be criminally investigated and the woman could be charged.

Also if she crossed state lines for treatment she will also be charged.
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#17New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 16:38:51
@DiscordTiger Said

I don’t think it should be either, but all miscarriages will have to be criminally investigated and the woman could be charged.

Also if she crossed state lines for treatment she will also be charged.



Who's calling for this, I haven't seen any calls for that yet.... but wouldn't be surprised.

I did read somewhere that someone/place (Minn?) wanted to charge doctors that perform abortions with murder.
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
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#18New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 19:02:05
@mrmhead Said

Who's calling for this, I haven't seen any calls for that yet.... but wouldn't be surprised.

I did read somewhere that someone/place (Minn?) wanted to charge doctors that perform abortions with murder.


The Georgia law requires an investigation to prove the woman didn’t have an abortion. If that investigation finds she did then she’s subject to the punishment in the law. Which is vague, but there.
People say it won’t be strictly enforced, but if that’s the case why make it part of the law?
What that means in practice (as with most other crime) is rich people with good lawyers will get off either completely or a slap on the wrist and everyone else will not.

The law doesn’t take effect until Jan, it will be challenged and probably delayed until the decision is made, but that doesn’t take away from the fact it’s a s***ty law that takes body autonomy away from Georgia’s women. Or possibly anyone passing through.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#19New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 19:57:12
I wonder if the wealthy are more or less likely to deviate from the norm.
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#20New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 20:14:55
It will be struck down in courts. Georgia lawmakers already know this too. Similar laws have already been struck down in every instance in other states. Alabama has one sitting that essentially outlaws abortion outright.

The sole purpose of these bills is to get the SCOTUS to take up an appeal and overturn Roe vs. Wade. Then, if so, it will be up to the states to do whatever the they want.

Either way, this particular bill will never see light of day.
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
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#21New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 21:11:03
@Leon Said

Either way, this particular bill will never see light of day.


That is not comforting when you are the target of losing rights.
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#22New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 21:21:25
@DiscordTiger Said

That is not comforting when you are the target of losing rights.


I hear you. But I wasn’t trying to be of comfort. I don’t think anybody could be at this point. All we can do is hope that SCOTUS upholds Roe vs Wade and shuts everyone up. Even that, though, isn’t too promising given the conservative majority, and that’s a threat to a lot of things, not just women’s rights.
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#23New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 21:25:33
@Leon Said

I hear you. But I wasn’t trying to be of comfort. I don’t think anybody could be at this point. All we can do is hope that SCOTUS upholds Roe vs Wade and shuts everyone up. Even that, though, isn’t too promising given the conservative majority, and that’s a threat to a lot of things, not just women’s rights.


One thing that may be of some comfort on this particular issue is the way some media entities are self-imposing a ban from doing business with Georgia as a result. If states actually were allowed to carry out abortion bans and started arresting women, I do believe it will rain hard on those states from a business standpoint. It’s the golden rule. And it may be enough to keep states from going backwards 50 years on things like this.
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#24New Post! May 11, 2019 @ 22:50:25
@DiscordTiger Said

The Georgia law requires an investigation to prove the woman didn’t have an abortion. If that investigation finds she did then she’s subject to the punishment in the law. Which is vague, but there.
People say it won’t be strictly enforced, but if that’s the case why make it part of the law?
What that means in practice (as with most other crime) is rich people with good lawyers will get off either completely or a slap on the wrist and everyone else will not.

The law doesn’t take effect until Jan, it will be challenged and probably delayed until the decision is made, but that doesn’t take away from the fact it’s a s***ty law that takes body autonomy away from Georgia’s women. Or possibly anyone passing through.


Thank you. I wasn't aware of that detail
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#25New Post! May 12, 2019 @ 22:36:28
KY law struck down (15-weeks)

“If the Act goes into effect, standard D&E abortions will no longer be performed in the Commonwealth due to ethical and legal concerns regarding compliance with the law,” he wrote.

The result, the judge said, would be that women lose “the right to obtain a pre-viability abortion anywhere in the Commonwealth of Kentucky after 15 weeks.”
Leon On December 21, 2023




San Diego, California
#26New Post! May 14, 2019 @ 03:53:14
So apparently the conservative SCOTUS reversed an unrelated 1979 ruling today on a 5-4 partisan line vote. The ruling itself was rather inconsequential, other than the glaring fact that this court is now demonstrating they are not afraid to tear up previous rulings.

Which the court’s liberal side was quick to point out in a rather dark foreboding manner.

mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#27New Post! May 15, 2019 @ 11:44:09
Alabama sent the most restrictive abortion bill in the country to the governor's desk Tuesday night, with the state's Senate passing legislation that could punish doctors who perform abortions with life in prison.

An even more restrictive bill


“Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer warned Monday that his colleagues might be too eager to overturn earlier rulings that he said deserve respect as established precedent, mentioning a key abortion ruling as one of them,” NBC News reports.

Said Breyer: “The law can retain the necessary stability only if this court resists that temptation, overruling prior precedent only when the circumstances demand it.”


link
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#28New Post! May 24, 2019 @ 23:33:52
Hope:

"Allowing the law to take effect would force the clinic to stop providing most abortion care," wrote Reeves, adding that "by banning abortions after the detection of a fetal heartbeat, the law prevents a woman's free choice, which is central to personal dignity and autonomy."

Federal judge blocks Mississippi law
bobbimay On February 11, 2024




Tucson, Arizona
#29New Post! May 25, 2019 @ 11:04:27
@mrmhead Said

Hope:

"Allowing the law to take effect would force the clinic to stop providing most abortion care," wrote Reeves, adding that "by banning abortions after the detection of a fetal heartbeat, the law prevents a woman's free choice, which is central to personal dignity and autonomy."

Federal judge blocks Mississippi law



you do know that is what Mississippi law makers wanted...right..they said so when the Governor signed it.
mrmhead On March 27, 2024




NE, Ohio
#30New Post! May 25, 2019 @ 14:31:20
@bobbimay Said

you do know that is what Mississippi law makers wanted...right..they said so when the Governor signed it.



Yes, but I like the way he presented it as a challenge to dignity and autonomy, rather than the prior supreme court rulings.
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