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Leon On December 21, 2023




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#16New Post! Mar 11, 2019 @ 15:56:35
@bobbimay Said

really show your evidence...


DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
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#17New Post! Mar 11, 2019 @ 23:22:09
@bobbimay Said

really show your evidence...


Uhh. Do I not get to find defacing a bible offensive?
I’m not sure what evidence you want about my faith and beliefs.
No one writes on my bibles. That’s fundamentally wrong to me.

I don’t have custody of the family tree bible. Adding births and deaths would be the only exception.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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#18New Post! Mar 11, 2019 @ 23:53:32
Small notes that may or may not be relevant:

1. Typically family trees are written somewhere on the inside of the bible. My family's "family bible" has the family tree in the back inside. However, I don't think there is any rule regarding where exactly the family tree goes.

2. In the pictures and video clips I saw, Trump was signing what appeared to be the outside front cover of a bible, though perhaps my eyes deceived me.

The bible itself doesn't contain any rules about whether or not one should or should not write anything on the outside front cover of a bible.... or anywhere else.

"God" didn't write the bible anyway (it was written by humans), so I doubt seriously that god cares.

None the less I find it tacky, at best, to autograph any bible on its front cover... but thats just me... call me crazy.

I also find it more than a bit delusional to want any human to sign the front cover of any holy book.

We can all be happy about at least one part of this story: Trump didn't autograph a Koran...so many things would have been wrong with that.

mrmhead On about 16 hours ago




NE, Ohio
#19New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 01:26:37
Next Up:
Some Trumpsterf*** will want to recreate "Immersion" with The Donald's ... ahem...

Sweet_Merry On October 01, 2023
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#20New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 10:55:21
My grandmother signed my bible with a short message when she gave it to me. It's not considered Defacing if you want someone to sign or you write in it.
She also believed in writing in its margins and empty spaces with her ideas and things relating to the passage.
It's not considered desecration.

Glad I don't have to live with such hate in my soul.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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#21New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 14:47:42
@Sweet_Merry Said

My grandmother signed my bible with a short message when she gave it to me. .


Inside the bible or on the front cover?



Oh, I know... you won't answer... you said what you said and I should twist what you said by asking a simple question.
Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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#22New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 16:53:30
@chaski Said

Small notes that may or may not be relevant:

1. Typically family trees are written somewhere on the inside of the bible. My family's "family bible" has the family tree in the back inside. However, I don't think there is any rule regarding where exactly the family tree goes.

2. In the pictures and video clips I saw, Trump was signing what appeared to be the outside front cover of a bible, though perhaps my eyes deceived me.

The bible itself doesn't contain any rules about whether or not one should or should not write anything on the outside front cover of a bible.... or anywhere else.

"God" didn't write the bible anyway (it was written by humans), so I doubt seriously that god cares.

None the less I find it tacky, at best, to autograph any bible on its front cover... but thats just me... call me crazy.

I also find it more than a bit delusional to want any human to sign the front cover of any holy book.

We can all be happy about at least one part of this story: Trump didn't autograph a Koran...so many things would have been wrong with that.



Does it really matter if you or I find it tacky though? He was asked to sign them by the owners. If he showed up with a stack of Bibles and started signing and distributing them unsolicited then yeah, that would be tacky and honestly, I'd be laughing my a** off.

But he was signing them at the request of the people who owned them...I'm sure they appreciated it and will enjoy having them, misguided as it may be.

Yeah, it's kind of silly to have a human sign the front of a holy book, but if you ask me it's also kind of silly for someone completely removed from the situation to condemn anything about it if the two people involved agree on it and aren't really hurting anyone.

Just me maybe.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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#23New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 17:06:35
@Eaglebauer Said

Does it really matter if you or I find it tacky though?


No. It doesn't matter.

Yes, one of my points was that I think it tacky.

However, my other point was that, even though it doesn't matter, there is a difference between signing or otherwise writing inside a bible vs signing or otherwise writing on the front cover of the bible. From what I can tell, and perhaps I'm wrong, most of the defense of Trump on this topic addresses signing the inside of the bible. Again, perhaps I am wrong on that point.

But again... does that matter?

Ultimately in the scheme of life or the universe? No.

I even specifically stated that I doubt that god cares.


As a side note: I do believe that if it had been certain other politicians, there would be an uproar from the "right", though perhaps I am wrong on that point as well.
Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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#24New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 17:16:48
@chaski Said

No. It doesn't matter.

Yes, one of my points was that I think it tacky.

However, my other point was that, even though it doesn't matter, there is a difference between signing or otherwise writing inside a bible vs signing or otherwise writing on the front cover of the bible. From what I can tell, and perhaps I'm wrong, most of the defense of Trump on this topic addresses signing the inside of the bible. Again, perhaps I am wrong on that point.

But again... does that matter?

Ultimately in the scheme of life or the universe? No.

I even specifically stated that I doubt that god cares.


Okay.


Quote:

As a side note: I do believe that if it had been certain other politicians, there would be an uproar from the "right", though perhaps I am wrong on that point as well.



No, I think you're probably right about that. Sad.
DiscordTiger On December 04, 2021
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#25New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 17:23:38
@Sweet_Merry Said

My grandmother signed my bible with a short message when she gave it to me. It's not considered Defacing if you want someone to sign or you write in it.
She also believed in writing in its margins and empty spaces with her ideas and things relating to the passage.
It's not considered desecration.

Glad I don't have to live with such hate in my soul.


I’m assuming that hate in the soul dig was at me.

Me and my soul are doing just great. A difference in how I treat my belongings does not make me a hateful person.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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#26New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 17:23:39
@Eaglebauer Said

Okay.





Final... sort of final... thought:

I do realize that I am very opinionated but also realize that my opinions don't really matter much... and that is probably a good thing over all.

Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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#27New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 17:28:48
@chaski Said

Final... sort of final... thought:

I do realize that I am very opinionated but also realize that my opinions don't really matter much... and that is probably a good thing over all.




Opinions matter, it just depends who you ask. Your opinions matter to me. Sometimes I question them but it means I'm paying attention and want to understand them better, even if I don't fully agree.

Our collective opinions, yours and mine, probably don't really matter much in the grand scheme of this story.

But this is our hill...and these are OUR beans.

Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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#28New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 17:32:53
@DiscordTiger Said

I’m assuming that hate in the soul dig was at me.

Me and my soul are doing just great. A difference in how I treat my belongings does not make me a hateful person.



Yeah, offense is not hatred.

I specifically didn't quote you with what I said to Chaski because your view on it is based on your religion and while I don't take the same offense, I can understand yours.

And you're allowed to be offended by it...I also don't have any issues with someone doing whatever they want to the Koran but I can understand why a Muslim would take offense to it. And people shouldn't get all bent out of shape if a Muslim says "Hey, please don't do that."
Sweet_Merry On October 01, 2023
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Building my Castles in the Sky
#29New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 18:37:15
@DiscordTiger Said

I’m assuming that hate in the soul dig was at me.

Me and my soul are doing just great. A difference in how I treat my belongings does not make me a hateful person.



No, it wasn't.
chaski On about 4 hours ago
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#30New Post! Mar 12, 2019 @ 20:18:51
@DiscordTiger Said

I’m assuming that hate in the soul dig was at me.

Me and my soul are doing just great. A difference in how I treat my belongings does not make me a hateful person.



I think it was towards me.

Of course I don't actually like Trump enough for it to be considered "hate".
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