@Jennifer1984 Said
Well, that's an interesting notion.... to declare somebody who doesn't agree with YOU as having some sort of pyschosis. I think you almost pity me.
It's not that you disagree with me that's the issue. Chaski and I disagree on everything and he's fine - I actually enjoy our debates.
Tiger and I disagree on almost everything and she's fine.
Neither of them say that everyone who disagrees with them is hateful and trying to destroy all things out of spite though.
@Jennifer1984 Said hear the rhetoric being thrown out daily, and in the case of one of my online friends, has been assaulted in the street for simply wearing a tee shirt (the slogan said: "Don't blame me, I voted Remain". I have one of those myself). She was beaten and kicked by two men and called a "Collaborator".
I doubt very much that you'll condemn that. Got what she deserved, did she..?
See, it's the hate that seems to be in
you that intrigues me.
I oppose violence, just like I support Brexit.
When Trump supporters and free speech advocates get beaten, when retarded white kids are tortured and made to drink toilet water, when grooming gangs assault literally thousands of girls - I oppose it. When people attack a Muslim, despite my loathing of Islam, I oppose it. When some pasty white soy boy or beta cuck gets beaten for being pathetic and whiny, I oppose it (I might laugh about it, but I still oppose it).
Political violence is almost always wrong, and the one who initiates it is always wrong (self defence is legitimate though).
@Jennifer1984 Said I don't think you fully understand the depth of hatred some people have for Europe. As I pointed out in an earlier post, an MP, Jo Cox, was repeatedly stabbed and then shot at point blank range for voting Remain in the House of Commons.
Is that what you'd call normal behaviour, Bob..?
This is irrational and emotive.
I'll let you answer this question. See if you can work out what I would think of a political opponent being stabbed and shot for no reason.
Tell me what you honestly think my opinion would be.
It will be interesting to see if you're capable of ascribing a good moral trait to someone who is diametrically opposed to you.
I like to think if a remoaner or Trump hater were to stab me you would be appalled and completely disavow it. I might be wrong, but I think and hope that I'm not.
@Jennifer1984 Said And how is what happened to Jo Cox a part of some psychosis of mine..?
This is also irrational emotion in action.
I never claimed that some random muppet stabbing people you support is your fault. In fact, I said very recently the only person to blame for what you do is you (you meaning each of us individually. Our actions are our fault, no one elses) - I don't agree with Hitler's ideas on shared guilt. Again, the emotion driven lack of logic is fascinating. It says something. Do you hear it though?
If someone attacked you (Jen) on the street, and they were wearing a MBGA hat (Make Britain Great Again), and I supported them but not you, I would still step in to defend and protect you from them. Even if you were on the side line screaming that me and him are hateful, racist, homophobic, xenohobic bigots... I'd think you're unhinged and a muppet, but I'd still defend you (then, once I knew you were ok, I'd tell you I think you're a muppet and move on).
@Jennifer1984 Said And speaking of psychoses, how come this means so much to you..? You're not British. You're not resident here. It doesn't affect Australia in any way, shape or form.
I care for a lot of reasons. I have children living in the UK (my own and those of friends), that I care about. I have family, friends etc., living there. A few of my best mates were born there (one of my oldest friends'
dad died as a fighter pilot in the Battle of Britain about which Winston gave his famous "never before" speech). Australia is linked to the UK, even if the UK isn't linked to us.
I have "skin in the game," as they say, it's just not my skin directly.
@Jennifer1984 Said I've got a reason for opposing Brexit. Mine,my daughter's and my families lives will be directly affected by it in a very serious and negative way.
With the exception of the "me" part, I have those same reasons.
And beyond that I care for the same reason I care about Yazidi girls enslaved by ISIS, and I care about Bahai being persecuted, and I care about young black kids in the US addicted to crack and living s***ty lives with no future, and I care about homeless people and the mentally ill and so on. I care about people because they're people and should be cared about.
@Jennifer1984 Said Just exactly what problem do YOU have with the European Union that makes you so vehement and obsessive in your hatred of them..?
I'm not sure I hate them. I want the EU gone. I want Merkel, May and Macron gone. I want this globalist ideology gone. I want the move toward Nazi and fascist ideology gone. I want the suppression of dissenters gone.
Some of us look at the way the world is going and think, "We've been here before." And we don't like where it ended up.
@Jennifer1984 Said Being affronted by false allegations of being an anti-democratic organisation doesn't cut it.
Has the EU made nations vote again when they voted wrong the first time? Yes. Even the lying BBC fake news pedo protectors admit it. There's nothing false about saying true things.
@Jennifer1984 Said There are plenty of those in the world that you never mention, closer to your home (China for example) who you're not starting umpteen page threads about.
On average, I start one thread about every three or four years at most, and I didn't start this one.
And I mention China from time to time - usually in relation to existing global power struggles and the failures of Obama. They are currently buying ports and land from nations they have loaned money to around here, and they also buy Australian politicians (according to our intelligence service, ASIO). Our political class are not helping our farmers during a decades long drought. When the farmers commit suicide (at a rate of more than one a week now), the Chinese buy the farms with the blessing of our political class.
No one here engages with that topic though. The suicides of Australian farmers is hard to connect with for outsiders.
@Jennifer1984 Said I would wonder what's going on in YOUR head to make you so obsessed with this.
There's something more than meets the eye about your obsession with Brexit and the intensity of your desire to see it fulfilled in the harshest possible way for this country.
You do not idly throw away your sovereignty.
@Jennifer1984 Said So think on an old British adage. When you point one finger at me, there are three fingers pointing back at you.
This attempt to accuse me is kind of sad. Can you point to even one instance where I claim people who disagree with me are all ruled by hate?
Again, I will say this to
really drive home the point.
I hate Islam. I assume you'd be aware of that..? But if not, I think it's the most evil thing man has ever created and a world without it becomes instantly a better world and loses literally nothing of value. Islam has no value. At its best it is a disease.
However, I do not hate someone for being Muslim. If they want sharia, I want them gone from the west, but that's not because I hate them, it's because I think little girls are not wife material, it is not ok to r4pe non Muslim women, or kill homosexuals, apostates, adulterers or people who mock your religion etc. Sharia allows all of this and more.
Yet I still do not hate Muslims.
Your comment about Brexiters was worse than my comments about Muslims... let
that sink in.
@Jennifer1984 Said Put your own mental house in order before you start accusing me of mental aberration.
Meh. Like you and everyone else I'm not perfect. But as someone who has spent years working with screwed up kids of all races and religions and ethnic identities, and who spent time being a homeless druggy bum after suffering at the hands of some seriously bad people, I think I'm doing ok.
I disagree with you. That doesn't make me hateful or bigoted or insane. I think you are wrong. I do not think you are evil.