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gakINGKONG On July 15, 2021




, Florida
#181New Post! Dec 14, 2017 @ 18:12:57
@Erimitus Said

And the Sumerians



And my mother.
Justpassing On February 03, 2021




Avoca Vic Australia, Australia
#182New Post! Dec 16, 2017 @ 21:16:36
@chaski Said

Yes...

“As long as the earth endures,
seedtime and harvest,
cold and heat,
summer and winter,
day and night
will never cease.”

Well, the "seedtime and harvest" aside, I suppose the rest of that passage is correct.

Also so from that section of the bible: "Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and, taking some of all the clean animals and clean birds, he sacrificed burnt offerings on it. The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma.

Actually that is probably a poor translation, it was most likely really And then Noah, the croc hunting dude from the Australia outback, cooked some beef and chicken on the barbie. After smelling the aroma, God got himself a beer and sat down for a delicious meal..."



The industrial revolution hadn't come around then.... so so reference to agriculture was more appropriate.

Yep, they thought offering up sacrifices was the way to please God.
Justpassing On February 03, 2021




Avoca Vic Australia, Australia
#183New Post! Dec 16, 2017 @ 21:24:14
@chaski Said

Since we are still on the story of Noah's Ark...

.........


Oddly, if the story were in fact true, it would prove evolution (keeping in mind that evolution is NOT about the creation of life, but rather the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations). But that is probable a different thread.


I would think that everyone (well almost everyone anyway) would agree that evolution does happen.
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#184New Post! Dec 17, 2017 @ 00:10:19
@Justpassing Said

I would think that everyone (well almost everyone anyway) would agree that evolution does happen.



You might be surprised.

Its been a year or two, but we've had some pretty big discussion about evolution here on TFS.

Granted, typically if not always, at least one person in those discussions didn't seem to know what the word evolution means and/or was actually referring to the cause or source of the formation of life.
Justpassing On February 03, 2021




Avoca Vic Australia, Australia
#185New Post! Dec 21, 2017 @ 21:37:37
@chaski Said

You might be surprised.

Its been a year or two, but we've had some pretty big discussion about evolution here on TFS.

Granted, typically if not always, at least one person in those discussions didn't seem to know what the word evolution means and/or was actually referring to the cause or source of the formation of life.


I guess Darwin, Wallace and others might have something to do with that. lol

I don't have a problem with evolution.
But when they say we come from fish I feel a headache coming on.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#186New Post! Dec 22, 2017 @ 00:19:35
@Justpassing Said

I guess Darwin, Wallace and others might have something to do with that. lol

I don't have a problem with evolution.
But when they say we come from fish I feel a headache coming on.



Factoid: Chuck and Al published simultaneously the year before Origins.
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#187New Post! Dec 22, 2017 @ 01:26:50
@Justpassing Said

I guess Darwin, Wallace and others might have something to do with that. lol



@Erimitus Said

Factoid: Chuck and Al published simultaneously the year before Origins.


Additional Factoid:

While Chuckie had been working on his theory for nearly 20 years, but Al wrote his up 1st...and then sent it to Chuckie for opinion...

...who then said to himself oh s***! oh no! oh hell no!...

...Chuckie then did a quick write-up of his theory...then presented both his theory and Al's to the British Scientific Association of something or other (I forget the title of the organization and am presently too tire to look it up)...

While the theories were essentially the same, some argue that Chuckie did Al wrong (after all, Al did get his written up 1st)...

...others say oh pshaw! Chuckie had clearly been working on his for longer...just didn't publish because he wanted it to be perfect....

...others (mostly christians) say what a load of horse s***!!!
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#188New Post! Dec 22, 2017 @ 02:37:51
@chaski Said

Additional Factoid:

While Chuckie had been working on his theory for nearly 20 years, but Al wrote his up 1st...and then sent it to Chuckie for opinion...

...who then said to himself oh s***! oh no! oh hell no!...

...Chuckie then did a quick write-up of his theory...then presented both his theory and Al's to the British Scientific Association of something or other (I forget the title of the organization and am presently too tire to look it up)...

While the theories were essentially the same, some argue that Chuckie did Al wrong (after all, Al did get his written up 1st)...

...others say oh pshaw! Chuckie had clearly been working on his for longer...just didn't publish because he wanted it to be perfect....

...others (mostly christians) say what a load of horse s***!!!


As I understand it (admittedly hear say) Chuck borrowed from Al with impunity.

And ...and each revision of 'Origins' (nearly a dozen) was increasingly Lamarkian while Al maintained the theory humans descended from other species. And ...Chuck did not acknowledge man as descending from other species (possibly because his wife was very religious and controlled the family money) ...not (at least) until 'Decent of Man' (which if you have not read don't bother).

And as a final pedantic factoid: Mendel sent a Chuck a copy of his findings (which supported the theory of evolution) but Chuck never read it or if he did he did not understand it.

And that is all I have to say about that.
chaski On about 12 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#189New Post! Dec 22, 2017 @ 03:31:06
@Erimitus Said

As I understand it (admittedly hear say) Chuck borrowed from Al with impunity.

And ...and each revision of 'Origins' (nearly a dozen) was increasingly Lamarkian while Al maintained the theory humans descended from other species. And ...Chuck did not acknowledge man as descending from other species (possibly because his wife was very religious and controlled the family money) ...not (at least) until 'Decent of Man' (which if you have not read don't bother).

And as a final pedantic factoid: Mendel sent a Chuck a copy of his findings (which supported the theory of evolution) but Chuck never read it or if he did he did not understand it.

And that is all I have to say about that.


David Quammen explains it quite well in his book, The Reluctant Mr. Darwin
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#190New Post! Dec 22, 2017 @ 04:59:54
@chaski Said

David Quammen explains it quite well in his book, The Reluctant Mr. Darwin



found it... Thanks
Justpassing On February 03, 2021




Avoca Vic Australia, Australia
#191New Post! Dec 22, 2017 @ 05:21:43
@Erimitus Said

Factoid: Chuck and Al published simultaneously the year before Origins.


Yep, in the same publication even.

Me mate Jock down the road reckons "it's all baloney. We always been fat lazy bastards looking for a cheap thrill"

Got no idea what that's got to do with but if Jock says it then it's got to mean something.
Cpat92 On May 16, 2021
It's all or nothing





Lauderhill, Florida
#192New Post! Jan 31, 2018 @ 18:11:11
I don’t remember if I asked this, but just to clarify, do you need religion to be a Theist?
gakINGKONG On July 15, 2021




, Florida
#193New Post! Jan 31, 2018 @ 18:20:44
@Cpat92 Said

I don’t remember if I asked this, but just to clarify, do you need religion to be a Theist?



Religion is simply a system of thought between God and man (how if at all the humans interact with God), so as long as you have no link there, you can be theist without religion.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#194New Post! Jan 31, 2018 @ 19:14:28
@Cpat92 Said

I don’t remember if I asked this, but just to clarify, do you need religion to be a Theist?



Theism assumes that there is a supreme being.

The religious believe/know there is a supreme being and worship it. Worship (if I understand correctly) has something to do with bingo
Komentenmelodie On May 25, 2018




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#195New Post! Jan 31, 2018 @ 20:36:41
Am out of my depth here with all this theology & speculation etc. I do have some insight into the contents of the Bible though. It does say somewhere (I am not that familiar with it) that believers should meet to worship BUT that does not necessarily mean church. There is a verse somewhere that says that God will be anywhere there is a group of people worshipping. sadly with religion (whatever one is applicable) there is NO exact science to it. Religion cannot be specified as to exactly what/how etc it is. That is where faith starts which ultimately is the basis for any beliefs.
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