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mrmhead On 50 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#166New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 13:11:00
@Justpassing Said

It is possible.. a whole world flood... or just partially.


Regarding the flood That's what I think - and all the similar stories around the globe are just localized accounts.
For instance -
The midwest in the 90's
New Orleans with Katrina,
Fukashima tsunami...
Probably seemed like "the World Has Flooded" if you didn't have the advantage of modern technology.

As accounts of such are told over and over, the details change and it could easily be interpreted as "the whole world - all at once"

And as for the Ark - I suppose if you generalize the details, it could be accepted - Noah's ark design was the basis for many modern cargo and transport ships - HUGE
mrmhead On 50 minutes ago




NE, Ohio
#167New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 13:15:29
@Erimitus Said

Rule 51


Check the back seat?


.. Oh wait, that's Rule #31
Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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Saint Louis, Missouri
#168New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 13:17:17
@mrmhead Said

Check the back seat?


.. Oh wait, that's Rule #31



Rule 31 is male gym members are forbidden from sniffing the seats of the female stationary bikes. Get it straight, dude.
Eaglebauer On July 23, 2019
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Saint Louis, Missouri
#169New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 13:19:14
@mrmhead Said

Regarding the flood That's what I think - and all the similar stories around the globe are just localized accounts.
For instance -
The midwest in the 90's
New Orleans with Katrina,
Fukashima tsunami...
Probably seemed like "the World Has Flooded" if you didn't have the advantage of modern technology.

As accounts of such are told over and over, the details change and it could easily be interpreted as "the whole world - all at once"

And as for the Ark - I suppose if you generalize the details, it could be accepted - Noah's ark design was the basis for many modern cargo and transport ships - HUGE



Summer of '93 found me spending eight hours a day volunteering to help sandbag the Missouri river right near the confluence of the Mississippi on the days I didn't work. A lot of the people I knew lost houses.

Sure seemed like the world was going under at the time.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#170New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 13:30:58
@mrmhead Said

Check the back seat?


.. Oh wait, that's Rule #31



chuckle
chaski On about 6 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#171New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 17:20:26
Since we are still on the story of Noah's Ark...

It is clear, IMO, to any rational and logical thinking person, that the story of Noah's Ark is clearly a children's story written to send two messages to children:

1. If you are bad God will punish you severely.
2. If you are good God will save you.

When 1st created, it probably helped explain a fairly large, though not worldwide, flood even that had happened in recent memory. Of course the biblical version was most likely borrowed from the Babylonians.

In addition, the story has the cute little benefit of giving children and explanation as to why there are rainbows.

Oddly, if the story were in fact true, it would prove evolution (keeping in mind that evolution is NOT about the creation of life, but rather the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations). But that is probable a different thread.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#172New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 17:55:44
Back in antiquity (when I was a child) we would play a game in our classroom called telephone.

In the game of telephone the first child was told a story; the first kid would secretly tell the second child the same story, the second would tell the story to the third and so on. The story as told by the final child (though vaguely similar) was always ...always different, embellished and exaggerated.

Biblical stories told over and over to succeeding generations change in the same way; with miracles and wondrous occurrences added.
Justpassing On February 03, 2021




Avoca Vic Australia, Australia
#173New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 23:22:30
@mrmhead Said

Regarding the flood That's what I think - and all the similar stories around the globe are just localized accounts.
For instance -
The midwest in the 90's
New Orleans with Katrina,
Fukashima tsunami...
Probably seemed like "the World Has Flooded" if you didn't have the advantage of modern technology.

As accounts of such are told over and over, the details change and it could easily be interpreted as "the whole world - all at once"

And as for the Ark - I suppose if you generalize the details, it could be accepted - Noah's ark design was the basis for many modern cargo and transport ships - HUGE


For me, the Noah's Ark is more about consequences.
- the people had become feral
- they suffered consequences because of it.

Also that regardless of what happens, there will be survivors.
BUT the Bible does say something to the effect "as long as the world endures.." so maybe only to certain point.

All the myths I have read have indicated similar
- good against evil
- survival

For me, stories like this are not about detail but more about "What can I learn from this?"
Yes, it could have happened... the boat was built etc etc
Is there poetic licence involved? Maybe.
But more importantly, what can I learn about me? About others?
chaski On about 6 hours ago
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Tree at Floydgirrl's Window,
#174New Post! Dec 12, 2017 @ 23:51:00
@Justpassing Said


BUT the Bible does say something to the effect "as long as the world endures.." so maybe only to certain point.




Yes...

“As long as the earth endures,
seedtime and harvest,
cold and heat,
summer and winter,
day and night
will never cease.”

Well, the "seedtime and harvest" aside, I suppose the rest of that passage is correct.

Also so from that section of the bible: "Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and, taking some of all the clean animals and clean birds, he sacrificed burnt offerings on it. The Lord smelled the pleasing aroma..."

Actually that is probably a poor translation, it was most likely really And then Noah, the croc hunting dude from the Australia outback, cooked some beef and chicken on the barbie. After smelling the aroma, God got himself a beer and sat down for a delicious meal..."
Cpat92 On May 16, 2021
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Lauderhill, Florida
#175New Post! Dec 13, 2017 @ 16:02:45
I believe I may now be a “Christian Deist.”
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#176New Post! Dec 13, 2017 @ 18:58:16
@Cpat92 Said

I believe I may now be a “Christian Deist.”



How do you define deist?
Cpat92 On May 16, 2021
It's all or nothing





Lauderhill, Florida
#177New Post! Dec 14, 2017 @ 04:41:28
@Erimitus Said

How do you define deist?



Deist: One individual who believes in God, but doesn’t believe that he is as involved in the world as the Christians say he is. Deists also believe that the Bible isn’t completely accurate and that miracles and great wonders that took place in the Bible didn’t happen.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#178New Post! Dec 14, 2017 @ 06:20:25
@Cpat92 Said

Deist: One individual who believes in God, but doesn’t believe that he is as involved in the world as the Christians say he is. Deists also believe that the Bible isn’t completely accurate and that miracles and great wonders that took place in the Bible didn’t happen.



Hmmm….

There is a [supreme being] that is usually personified and called (among other things) God.

This [Supreme Being] is the creator of my world.

This [Supreme Being] does not intervene or interact with the world that I experiece.

My world (the world that I experience) was created by the [Supreme Being] (i.e., above all other beings).

I have been using the word being when referring to living objects and thing when referring to non-living objects.

I have been defining a being as a self-replicating biological process. And …and I do not think of the Supreme Being as biological (although possibly self replicating without attrition (i.e., entropy)).

My philosophy is based on the existence of a (well actually) THE Supreme Being (in that there can only be one) but …but I do not, in the way that I regard ‘IT’ (i.e., the ONE), as changing but rather as immutable (not changing) and eternal (i.e., always was, is now, and always will be).

Calling ‘IT’ a being (in my lexicon) is difficult for me.

That ‘IT’ is is one of the few certainties. What ‘IT’ is seems to be impossible to conceive (at least for me). That may be why ‘IT’ has been personified.
gakINGKONG On July 15, 2021




, Florida
#179New Post! Dec 14, 2017 @ 17:23:02
If you love reading thank Gutenberg.
Erimitus On July 01, 2021




The mind of God, Antarctica
#180New Post! Dec 14, 2017 @ 18:02:16
@GAKingKong Said

If you love reading thank Gutenberg.



And the Sumerians
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