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Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#1New Post! Jun 15, 2015 @ 04:10:05
Magna Carta, one of the most important documents in history is 800 years old today.

15 June 1215 at Runnymede near Windsor, Bad King John was forced, as good as at swordpoint, to sign this compact with his Barons which became not only the first chink in the concept of the Divine Right of Kings, but also led to the rule of Habeus Corpus in law.

Actually, King John didn't "sign" Magna Carta because he couldn't read or write, instead he attached his Royal seal, which was just as good.

Much of the document didn't really amount to much, but critically, it promised the protection of church rights, protection for the barons from illegal imprisonment, access to swift justice, and limitations on feudal payments to the Crown, to be implemented through a council of 25 barons (the first Parliament) and although both parties reneged on it in many cases, Edward I (Longshanks himself) repeated the issuance of the Charter in 1297, this time confirming it as part of English Statute Law.

It was instrumental in the abolition of slavery in England many years before the US had a bloody civil war over the issue, and is still used today, for instance when Tony Benn invoked it in Parliament in 2008 during the debate on how long terrorist suspects could be held without charge.

Most of its clauses have since been repealed and relevant rights ensured by other statutes, but it still holds a place of great importance in our national consciousness and has been influential in the legal frameworks of many other countries, the US included.

Happy Birthday, Magna Carta. Keep up the good work.
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#2New Post! Jun 15, 2015 @ 21:28:10
Thank you for explaining that to us simple plebs.
psycoskunk On December 24, 2020
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#3New Post! Jun 15, 2015 @ 23:06:18
Also, Happy Birthday to Neil Patrick Harris, Courtney Cox and Ice Cube. May you enjoy your special day in any special way you wish.
Corey On January 25, 2022




Sacramento, California
#4New Post! Jun 16, 2015 @ 03:45:45
A friend of mine once told a story to me to help me remember what year the Magna Carta was signed. He said to think the document was signed just after lunch at 12:15. And it worked I never forgot the year of the signing.

Corey.
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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#5New Post! Jul 05, 2015 @ 04:50:13
@yami Said

Thank you for explaining that to us simple plebs.



You're welcome, but it's not very nice of you to call all your friends simple plebs. You shouldn't judge them by your standards, you know.
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#6New Post! Jul 05, 2015 @ 04:52:00
@Corey Said

A friend of mine once told a story to me to help me remember what year the Magna Carta was signed. He said to think the document was signed just after lunch at 12:15. And it worked I never forgot the year of the signing.

Corey.



A very useful little mnemonic, Corey. Thanks for sharing.
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#7New Post! Jul 05, 2015 @ 04:54:52
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@Jennifer1984 Said

A useful mnemonic, Corey. Thanks.
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#8New Post! Jul 05, 2015 @ 04:58:10
@Jennifer1984 Said

You're welcome, but it's not nice of you to call your friends plebs. You shouldn't judge them by your standards.


Fixed this one as well.

But, now that your intent is clear, it begs the question; If he shouldn't judge by his standards, what standards should he use to judge?

I'm assuming that he should use yours.
Jennifer1984 On July 20, 2022
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Penzance, United Kingdom
#9New Post! Jul 05, 2015 @ 08:41:54
@boxer Said

Fixed this one as well.

But, now that your intent is clear, it begs the question; If he shouldn't judge by his standards, what standards should he use to judge?

I'm assuming that he should use yours.



Noooooooooo, not at all. We wouldn't want him to become circumlocutory, now would we..?

He could always try not judging at all, which is a fine virtue. Do not judge lest ye be judged and all that jazz, eh.? Not that I'm perfect myself in that regard but hey-ho. Who is..?

But we have another mnemonic here, and it is a very useful one to use when making assumptions.

Assume makes an ASS of U and ME

I like that one.
boxer On June 16, 2016

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#10New Post! Jul 05, 2015 @ 13:42:14
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@Jennifer1984 Said

No. We wouldn't want him to become circumlocutory.

He could try not judging, which is a virtue. Do not judge lest ye be judged eh.? Not that I'm perfect but who is..?

But we have another useful mnemonic here.

Assume makes an ASS of U and ME

I like that one.
yami On September 11, 2016

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grimsby, United Kingdom
#11New Post! Jul 05, 2015 @ 15:18:59
@boxer Said

Fixed this one as well.

But, now that your intent is clear, it begs the question; If he shouldn't judge by his standards, what standards should he use to judge?

I'm assuming that he should use yours.



Goodness, I am but a simple pleb, nooooooooooooooooo, I would never get ideas above my station. Oh, we don't do things like that in the UK you know, oh dear...goes on and on ad nauseam.
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