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boobear On August 15, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#46New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 13:53:44
@ClickBoom Said

Maybe I'm daft or something but I gotta axe...

1) Are you going to start a new thread each month and call it ... um... like whatever month it happens to be? ie: March Photo Challenge.... providing it's actually March. If it's like April or something then call it that.

2) When will it start and is this the thread we post Feb in. Like I have a photo that fits " Abandon " whatever the hell that is unless a copy of my divorce decree works. That's Abandon right?

After this month's competition I will do a different thread.

Abandon can mean whatever you want it to. The photo can be old, new scanned or waited. It has to be a photo you took. Put up a copy of your papers if you want. It's entirely up to you.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#47New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 13:57:11
@boobear Said

I did consider minimal but how I can track that? I want to make this for everybody not just the people who are into photography. Some people may not know even minimal post production so it's not fair to have an unfair advantage. If it becomes a problem then rules can always be changed later on. I am just trying to do something fyn for EVERYONE.


You can only eyeball it and make judgments. Those with a lot more experience in Photoshop and whatnot could help you make a decision if there's any question about how much work was put into a photo.

Ultimately all pictures go through PP. Period. The raw data from the sensor of a camera has to be interpreted to produce a JPG. A Canon HS 100, for example, is a $120 camera that basically has a full Photoshop routine built in. Every time you snap the shutter, the camera boosts the contrast, corrects the exposure, applies highlight reducing and shadow boosting, adjusts the brightness, runs it through a sophisticated noise reduction routine, and applies a sharpness boost. After all that it exports this data through a color interpretation machine to apply a color space and finally a JPG compression routine.

It does all that every time you take a picture.

My low-end $500 Canon DSLR, in RAW mode, doesn't do any of that. The same picture that looks fantastic from the HS 100 would look dull, lifeless, and almost out of focus right from my camera. It just captures the raw data. The RAW image must go through all that processing on the computer side. Canon includes some software (PhotoEX or something like that) but like most people who aren't braindead I use something else instead. All of my photos get imported through Adobe Photoshop Lightroom which applies all of the things the HS 100 does, but it lets me tweak it a little bit per picture.

Ultimately you can't know precisely how much PP the image has gone through. But you might see "Adobe Photoshop" or something somewhere in the EXIF data.
boobear On August 15, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#48New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 13:57:27
@jonnythan Said

So uh how do you enter?



Uh, post your photo on this topic.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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Here and there,
#49New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 13:58:47
Uh, OK, that was never made clear as far as I can tell.

Uh, maybe you should include entry instructions in the OP.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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#50New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:00:23
Now that I think about it, since you're so focused on being fair, you might want to consider having people email you the pictures so you can post them, preferably after stripping out the EXIF data.

This way it won't just be a popularity contest.
boobear On August 15, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#51New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:02:10
@jonnythan Said

You can only eyeball it and make judgments. Those with a lot more experience in Photoshop and whatnot could help you make a decision if there's any question about how much work was put into a photo.

Ultimately all pictures go through PP. Period. The raw data from the sensor of a camera has to be interpreted to produce a JPG. A Canon HS 100, for example, is a $120 camera that basically has a full Photoshop routine built in. Every time you snap the shutter, the camera boosts the contrast, corrects the exposure, applies highlight reducing and shadow boosting, adjusts the brightness, runs it through a sophisticated noise reduction routine, and applies a sharpness boost. After all that it exports this data through a color interpretation machine to apply a color space and finally a JPG compression routine.

It does all that every time you take a picture.

My low-end $500 Canon DSLR, in RAW mode, doesn't do any of that. The same picture that looks fantastic from the HS 100 would look dull, lifeless, and almost out of focus right from my camera. It just captures the raw data. The RAW image must go through all that processing on the computer side. Canon includes some software (PhotoEX or something like that) but like most people who aren't braindead I use something else instead. All of my photos get imported through Adobe Photoshop Lightroom which applies all of the things the HS 100 does, but it lets me tweak it a little bit per picture.

Ultimately you can't know precisely how much PP the image has gone through. But you might see "Adobe Photoshop" or something somewhere in the EXIF data.


Ok. I will clarify this then. Obviously images in the camera unless RAW go through post production automatically. What I am trying to say is no post production on the computer, say in photo gallery, flickr, photoshop or photoshop elements. If this annoys people & the majority vote they want to do more it can be changed but just for first one for this month I wanna,keep it simple.
Leon On March 30, 2024




San Diego, California
#52New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:04:50
Why eve debate this? It isn't like anybody would even be able to tell if someone did minimal post production on the computer vs the camera, would they?
boobear On August 15, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#53New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:06:22
@jonnythan Said

Uh, OK, that was never made clear as far as I can tell.

Uh, maybe you should include entry instructions in the OP.



Uh this was a spur of the moment thing I thought of yesterday. Please stop b****ing at me about missing things out. I appreciate feedback & directions but there is absolutely no need for your attitude. I didn't do this for an opportunity b****ing from you funnily enough.

Btw, don't give it out if you can't take it back.
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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Here and there,
#54New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:07:00
@Leon Said

Why eve debate this? It isn't like anybody would even be able to tell if someone did minimal post production on the computer vs the camera, would they?


Image editing software generally appends its name to EXIF data on a picture.

EXIF data can be sanitized and edited pretty easily, of course, but forming the rules in such a ridiculously strict way that having "Photoshop" appear in the EXIF data automatically disqualifies an image is silly.
boobear On August 15, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#55New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:08:09
I'm starting to wish i'd never thought of this now.

Bye ppl i'm back to work.
boobear On August 15, 2016




London, United Kingdom
#56New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:10:06
I'm starting to wish i'd never thought of this now.

Bye ppl i'm back to work.
Leon On March 30, 2024




San Diego, California
#57New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:11:43
@jonnythan Said

Image editing software generally appends its name to EXIF data on a picture.

EXIF data can be sanitized and edited pretty easily, of course, but forming the rules in such a ridiculously strict way that having "Photoshop" appear in the EXIF data automatically disqualifies an image is silly.


Not if they post it on here via an Internet host site, which is what I did with my entry (and, no, I didn't edit the pic).
noseycow On September 03, 2015
x dippy madam x





\"proud blackcountry wench\",
#58New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:13:17
@boobear Said

I'm starting to wish i'd never thought of this now.

Bye ppl i'm back to work.



you carry on hun and do it your way, theres always some arse wants to appear clever, x your doing good hunx
jonnythan On August 02, 2014
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Here and there,
#59New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:15:08
@Leon Said

Not if they post it on here via an Internet host site, which is what I did with my entry (and, no, I didn't edit the pic).


Most image hosts, tinypic included, do not filter EXIF data. Intact EXIF data is a requirement for the photo anyway.

EXIF data from your posted image:

Date Time Original: 2009:12:30 15:00:03
Exposure Time: 1/40
F Number: 2.8
Exposure Program: Normal program
ISO Speed Ratings: 200
Metering Mode: Pattern
Flash: Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
Focal Length: 7.9
White Balance: Auto white balance
Make: SONY
Model: DSC-N2
noseycow On September 03, 2015
x dippy madam x





\"proud blackcountry wench\",
#60New Post! Feb 13, 2012 @ 14:20:29
i can cut and paste
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