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"Wage Peace"
silenthunder last visited November 25, 2007 silenthunder


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silenthunder
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Public entry Non-Violence
February 09, 2006 @ 03:36:50 pm
The essence of non-violence is love: Out of love and the willingness to act selflessly, strategies, tactics, and techniques for non-violent struggle arise naturally.
Non-violence is not a dogma; it is a process. Other struggles may be fueled by greed, hatred, fear, or ignorance, but a non-violent one cannot use such blind sources of energy, for they will destroy those involved and also the struggle itself. Non-violent action, born of awareness of suffering and nurtured by love, is the most effective way to confront adversity.

-Thich Nhat Hanh

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treebee

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February 09, 2006 @ 03:40:59 pm
do you feel that humans naturally have an aggressive streak that has to surface?


silenthunder


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:44:57 pm
The seeds of violence exist long before hostilities breakout. To prevent violence we must address the seeds of violence. To excuse violence by claiming that it is just man's nature to be violent ignors the fact that only man can bring about peace.


treebee

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February 09, 2006 @ 03:46:51 pm
silenthunder said:
The seeds of violence exist long before hostilities breakout. To prevent violence we must address the seeds of violence. To excuse violence by claiming that it is just man's nature to be violent ignors the fact that only man can bring about peace.


I agree that there is no excuse for violence, I feel that if people are enouraged to assert their natural aggression in productive rather than destructive ways, then violence would not exist.

In a perfect world though eh Silenthunder?


markfox01


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:46:53 pm
Dont we need violence to survive....


bandylank


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:49:21 pm
But violence is a natural respose to some emotions like fear, its people that use it because their pride has been damaged that ruin it for everyone


treebee

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February 09, 2006 @ 03:51:18 pm
markfox01 said:
Dont we need violence to survive....


there is violence and there is aggression, they are different things.


silenthunder


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:53:04 pm
treebee said:

In a perfect world though eh Silenthunder?


Why sell ourselves short? We have the ability to destroy ourselves, should we not at least make an attempt at peace? If we are to discover peace we must first find it in ourselves, then in our households, then in our communities, then in our nation, then in the world. Peace is possible and, I believe, worth the effort.


markfox01


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:54:49 pm
to debate about violence is like debating about science vrs religion.. there is no wining side... violence is embedded in every animal on this planet.. the human race will always kill themselves... hurt each other... but with out violence europe will be speaking german.. and you guys would be a british coloney.. sadly..Violents will bring peace because violents is easier than words...


bandylank


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:55:04 pm
treebee said:
do you feel that humans naturally have an aggressive streak that has to surface?


It is a survival tool, it will always be there, the day we lose it is the day we become extinct


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:56:30 pm
bandylank said:
It is a survival tool, it will always be there, the day we lose it is the day we become extinct


I know i have an aggressive streak and when i had my babies i felt an animal instinct more than ever. I would have ripped the heads off anyone who went near them.


markfox01


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:58:45 pm
treebee said:
I know i have an aggressive streak and when i had my babies i felt an animal instinct more than ever. I would have ripped the heads off anyone who went near them.


i used to be really aggressive too, untill i started kung fu many years ago.. now it takes alot to piss me off.. i dont get scared much either.. but i doesnt mean i can defend myself against everthing.. but it controls my violence..


bandylank


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:59:15 pm
treebee said:
I know i have an aggressive streak and when i had my babies i felt an animal instinct more than ever. I would have ripped the heads off anyone who went near them.


Exactly, we need it, but some people use it for the wrong reasons


silenthunder


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February 09, 2006 @ 03:59:42 pm
treebee said:
I know i have an aggressive streak and when i had my babies i felt an animal instinct more than ever. I would have ripped the heads off anyone who went near them.


You did not harm your babies. To surrender the effort towards peace is simply to destroy ourselves. The first victim of violence is the one who employs it.


treebee

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February 09, 2006 @ 04:01:20 pm
silenthunder said:
You did not harm your babies. To surrender the effort towards peace is simply to destroy ourselves. The first victim of violence is the one who employs it.


Thats true, last time i lashed out at anyone, i felt really bad afterwards and disappointed with myself.


dreamdestined


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May 28, 2006 @ 05:48:19 pm
You are so right. I wish more people thought that way.

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