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forumliberator28
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Public entry " Black People should have their own Police Monitors"
April 25, 2008 @ 01:44:52 pm
How in the hell did them dam cops get off for murdering that young black man on his wedding day! Their justification is pathethic, " We thought he was going to run us over with his car" If NYPD cops are that shaken and intimidated on the streets perhaps they should hang their badges up and take up Lacrosse or something!!!!
White people- I would just like you to know that you are the ones that create this atmosphere within America that draws in violence
and acts of terrorism. I hope you have a riot on your hands for the death of that young man, and its not just the Sean Bell case, The Jena 6, The Lady at rutgers- Our people are being attacked everywhere, What should we do about it? We should make trigga happy cops uncomfortable in our neighborhoods, we should start looking out for our own- If the shield is not going to respect us, We are not going to respect the Shield....

We need more people to get actively involved in Activism, Al-Sharpton is getting up there in age, no disrespect to the Bishop- but we have got to step it up- and fight this new surge of Black hate and white nationalism!!!!!!

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brooky


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April 25, 2008 @ 03:17:25 pm
Hello... Sad to hear what happened, i've yet to read about it. Where did this happen? When?
I'm not too crazy about what this world is, so much ... bad... out there, but i have seen a lot of good too. You are pissed off, understandably so.....

I would NEVER hurt anyone, in any way... and there are a lot of people... like me, who would never hurt ANYONE.

I'm frightned of cops sometimes... never know what's up their a** that day, not just cops, anyone really.

Nice to meet you friend


jonnythan


Pickle
108300 points
April 25, 2008 @ 05:38:24 pm
Us versus Them.

Look out for your own.



Pathetic and despicable.


MonkeyMadness


Ogler
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April 25, 2008 @ 05:41:05 pm
forumliberator28 said:

White people- I would just like you to know that you are the ones that create this atmosphere within America that draws in violence
and acts of terrorism.


Really? I think its people like you


adrinachrome


Ogler
21977 points
April 25, 2008 @ 05:41:55 pm
jonnythan said:
Us versus Them.

Look out for your own.



Pathetic and despicable.




Yeah, but it happens more often then would be liked.


basha


Minister
11897 points
April 25, 2008 @ 05:44:41 pm
That's it, tar us all with the same brush!
Its this kind of attitude that causes the problems in the first place. How are we ever to believe we are equals if there are people like you spouting like this!!
You are basically threatening all white people!! I find your post both personally offensive and incredibly childish, put your dummy back in mate.
What happened to that man is awful and it should never have happened but your attitude is only going to lead to even more blood shed.

It also sounds like you have a problem with authority but then that is just my opinion and i don't expect it with bother you a great deal.


forumliberator28


Über-Commander
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April 25, 2008 @ 05:47:31 pm
yes, I do have a problem with corrupt authority-


jonnythan


Pickle
108300 points
April 25, 2008 @ 05:48:07 pm
adrinachrome said:
Yeah, but it happens more often then would be liked.


Mmhmm.

The way to combat hatred and racism is not more hatred and racism.

Hate breeds hate. An "us versus them" mentality is exactly the problem, and responding with an even more vitriolic "us versus them" is counterproductive and divisive.


jonnythan


Pickle
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April 25, 2008 @ 05:48:37 pm
forumliberator28 said:
yes, I do have a problem with corrupt authority-


Seems more like you have a problem with white people in general.


adrinachrome


Ogler
21977 points
April 25, 2008 @ 05:51:10 pm
jonnythan said:
Mmhmm.

The way to combat hatred and racism is not more hatred and racism.

Hate breeds hate. An "us versus them" mentality is exactly the problem, and responding with an even more vitriolic "us versus them" is counterproductive and divisive.




Thats true jonnythan, all I am saying is that if you live in a neighborhood like mine the predominant Idea is us against them, It always has been since as far as I can remember. Not the best way of thinking, but thats how it is.


jonnythan


Pickle
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April 25, 2008 @ 05:54:29 pm
Oh, by the way, Sean Bell (a convicted drug dealer) was not shot on his wedding day.

He was shot in his car, after he ran it into a police van, during his bachelor party at a strip club when he left the club to go retrieve a gun from his car to settle an argument that broke out in the club.

And only one of the five officers involved was white.


basha


Minister
11897 points
April 25, 2008 @ 05:55:57 pm
I'm not fighting anyone.
I say nothing against black people and nothing against white. And i will not live my life believing that the few rotten apples in this world have a point. They don't and more to the point you don't.
You have come across as a racist and nothing you say will now change that.

Maybe you should have thought about it a little more.


jonnythan


Pickle
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April 25, 2008 @ 05:58:09 pm
forumliberator28 said:
I don't want to come across as a race monger in this forum,

Well when you say things like this:

"White people- I would just like you to know that you are the ones that create this atmosphere within America that draws in violence
and acts of terrorism. I hope you have a riot on your hands for the death of that young man"

about a man like Sean Bell, you are a "race monger."

And you are directly wishing violence on "white people" as a result of the verdict.


mymomsaysimacatch


Meister
1104 points
April 25, 2008 @ 05:59:46 pm
Quote:
why not racist blacks and ignorant whites as well?


This is a very true statement. People of all races have the ability to hold prejudice and ignorance. It is truely sad but this post of rage you have begun is not helping the situation for "your people" it seems like anger and hatered are what fuel this fire in this "white nationalism" or whatever you called it. I choose to lead by an example of tolerance not hate. Don't lump everyone in the country together.


forumliberator28


Über-Commander
191 points
April 25, 2008 @ 06:10:54 pm
Johnny boy or whatever your name is..........where did you hear that, the (NEWS).......FOX NEWS Probally............. okay I got one fact misconscrewed about the Wedding night and Bachelor party. But is that a fact or is it just a reckless presumption- (him being a drug dealer)
Okay so what if he was............them slops didnt follow protocol, and if someone not identified as a police officer comes after me in NEW YORK CITY............I'm going to reach for something too!
Is Self-Defense against the Law now!


jonnythan


Pickle
108300 points
April 25, 2008 @ 06:16:09 pm
forumliberator28 said:
Johnny boy or whatever your name is..........where did you hear that, the (NEWS).......FOX NEWS Probally.............

You make a large number of assumptions. And your assumptions seem to all be distinctly insulting and dismissive.

No, not FOX News.

Here are my sources:

The New York Times
CNN
The official toxicology report (that showed Bell was drunk)
The preliminary police report
The official filed reports of the officers involved
The official testimony given in a court of law


forumliberator28 said:
okay I got one fact misconscrewed about the Wedding night and Bachelor party. But is that a fact or is it just a reckless presumption- (him being a drug dealer)

Look, the guy was drunk and in an argument in a strip club. A detective (who had never fired his weapon in the line of duty) heard someone say something about a gun right before Bell left the club to go to his car. The officers - two of whom were black, one of whom was white - confronted him as he got in the car. He stepped on the gas pedal and the officers fired their weapons.

It's unfortunate, yes. But this, like the Jena 6, is no case to rally behind while screaming racism.




But, hey, you know. I'm white. I'm one of "the ones that create this atmosphere within America that draws in violence and acts of terrorism" upon whom you wish violence and riots. So don't mind anything I say.

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