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| Why does that which happens happen? | |
twilitezone911
| | i think events what control the past, the present, and the future. what do we need know how events happens if there is no past, no present, or no future to control the direction of the event to happen. |
twilitezone911
| events that we know, it base on an object. whatever it is alive like a " living cell " or an object that not alive, but it does exist, we see it or sense it.
event is the beginning, the middle, and the end of an object. |
Erimitus
| @twilitezone911 Said 
i think events what control the past, the present, and the future. what do we need know how events happens if there is no past, no present, or no future to control the direction of the event to happen.
TZ: ...events CONTROL the past, the present, and the future.
Proposition: the course of events was influenced by the past, is being influenced by the present, but I do not understand how the future can influence the present. If the future has not happened yet it does not exist. |
Erimitus
| @twilitezone911 Said
i think events what control the past, the present, and the future. what do we need know how events happens if there is no past, no present, or no future to control the direction of the event to happen.
E: I have been defining event as "that which happens" And ...and that which happens as an event. So we go in a circle.
E: To happen is to take place by chance (i.e., without apparent reason)
E: That which takes place by chance is an event.
E: An event is that which takes place by chance....
E: chance is the occurrence and development of events in the absence of any obvious design
E: To occur; an occurrence; occurring(present); occurred (past):
E: there does not seem to be a future tense for occur
E: Events develop.. (change) an event entails change. What is it that is changing?
TZ: What do we need know about how events happen if there is no past, no present, or no future to control the direction of the event to happen?
E: I do not understand your question. |
twilitezone911
| @Erimitus Said
TZ: ...events CONTROL the past, the present, and the future.
Proposition: the course of events was influenced by the past, is being influenced by the present, but I do not understand how the future can influence the present. If the future has not happened yet it does not exist.
if you know the future.
for example - this under " what if " scenarios.
we know that we can't change the past. we live in the present. so where we have the opinions to change the future.
we don't a time machine go into the future. no person ever had came from the future in a time machine.
with " synchronicity " and the ability of " precognition ", you might have the ability to glimpse of the future.
let us said:
an old lady is walking across a busy street and all sudden, a truck come toward her. the old lady doesn't see the truck coming down the street. the truck is going run her down.
three scenarios of the future is folding now.
the fate of the old lady is pending on you. she isn't allow to change her fate, so there is a chance that you can save her.
you are walking down the same street. you see the truck come down, and you can see the big picture. the old lady can't react fast, even if see the truck in time.
you have three scenarios that you can save the old lady from death.
you run and scream at the old lady and hope the old lady can hear you. she can avoid it.
you could run hard enough and leap toward to grab the lady and but your momentum was strong enough save the both of you. you save old lady and she was thrown to the curb, but the truck strike you. you die immediately.
you got a good and better momentum leap and you grab the old lady with your arms. you are both safety thrown to the curb. you have save yourself and the old lady.
what you would choose? |
twilitezone911
| @Erimitus Said
E: I have been defining event as "that which happens" And ...and that which happens as an event. So we go in a circle.
E: To happen is to take place by chance (i.e., without apparent reason)
E: That which takes place by chance is an event.
E: An event is that which takes place by chance....
E: chance is the occurrence and development of events in the absence of any obvious design
E: To occur; an occurrence; occurring(present); occurred (past):
E: there does not seem to be a future tense for occur
E: Events develop.. (change) an event entails change. What is it that is changing?
TZ: What do we need know about how events happen if there is no past, no present, or no future to control the direction of the event to happen?
E: I do not understand your question.
i think a event has " occurrences " have outlines or boundaries probably keep the event in it's place.
if the event possible spread out the outline or boundaries. that the event no control, that the fate or outcome not what suppose be.
the past, the present, and the future probably in a event is control base, not the factor of the event can control the past, the present, and the future.
the control base of a event has the working parts like the past, the present, and the future. the control base of the event is make sure the event happen.
what the goal of the event is the past, the present, and the future. that is the purpose of the event. |
Erimitus
| TZ: ...events CONTROL the past, the present, and the future.
Proposition: the course of events was influenced by the past, is being influenced by the present, but I do not understand how the future can influence the present. If the future has not happened yet it does not exist.
TZ: if you know the future.
for example - this under " what if " scenarios.
we know that we can't change the past. we live in the present. so where we have the opinions to change the future.
E: Well yeah, but we do that in the present. I have been thinking of an event as taking place by chance. Causality and all that.
E: we don't a time machine go into the future. no person ever had came from the future in a time machine.
TZ: with " synchronicity " and the ability of " precognition ", you might have the ability to glimpse of the future.
E: I read about that in a book that Tommy recommended. I have to admit I do not understand the process. It is called 'Synchronicity and the Holographic Universe' by Michael Talbot. It is on youtube. Maybe you can understand it.
let us said:
an old lady is walking across a busy street and all sudden, a truck come toward her. the old lady doesn't see the truck coming down the street. the truck is going run her down.
three scenarios of the future is folding now.
the fate of the old lady is pending on you. she isn't allow to change her fate, so there is a chance that you can save her.
you are walking down the same street. you see the truck come down, and you can see the big picture. the old lady can't react fast, even if see the truck in time.
you have three scenarios that you can save the old lady from death.
you run and scream at the old lady and hope the old lady can hear you. she can avoid it.
you could run hard enough and leap toward to grab the lady and but your momentum was strong enough save the both of you. you save old lady and she was thrown to the curb, but the truck strike you. you die immediately.
you got a good and better momentum leap and you grab the old lady with your arms. you are both safety thrown to the curb. you have save yourself and the old lady.
what you would choose?
E: Hmmmm... Well I would not choose die immediately.
E: I believe I would warn the lady by yelling.
you got a good and better momentum leap and you grab the old lady with your arms. you are both safety thrown to the curb. you have save yourself and the old lady. The lady (unaware of the truck) accuses you of assault. You are arrested an put in jail. This supports my theory that life is not fair. |
chaski
Stalker
| Chain reaction.
Or maybe some vast eternal plan. |
Erimitus
| TZ: ...an event has " occurrences " have outlines or boundaries probably keep the event in it's place.
if the event possible spread out the outline or boundaries. that the event no control, that the fate or outcome not what suppose be.
the past, the present, and the future probably in a event is control base, not the factor of the event can control the past, the present, and the future.
the control base of a event has the working parts like the past, the present, and the future. the control base of the event is make sure the event happen.
E: I believe that I understand.
TZ: what the goal of the event is the past, the present, and the future. that is the purpose of the event.
E: As I understand it an event happens by chance. I do not see how there could be a purpose.
TZ: events that we know, it base on an object.
E: Yes
TZ: whatever it is alive like a " living cell " or an object that not alive, but it does exist, we see it or sense it.
E: Yes
TZ: event is the beginning, the middle, and the end of an object.
E: Yes. And ...and that is as good a definition of event as I have ever heard. (well read actually)
E: And ...and the middle has a beginning middle and end and that middle has a beginning middle and end; ad infinitum. From that perspective an event is infinite.
E: Yet we perceive an event as finite.
E: an event is simultaneously finite and infinite, temporal and eternal.
E: Thank you much TZ.... |
Erimitus
| @chaski Said
Chain reaction.
Or maybe some vast eternal plan.
Causality
A plan posits a planner....
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twilitezone911
| a chain reaction occurs in an event, better than describing little events or occurrences in field of tenses.
to describe an event, someone might not in different order like the future, the past, and then the present.
three people could describe an event by chain reaction. each one or of the three might describe something in the future by his or her understand of the event happen.
next one describing the past of the event, in reality, the event happen in the present, not the past.
chain reaction of an event might only by perception by the person, who walked in or aware of the event happening.
it is walking into the middle of a movie, and guessing what going in the movie to find out what is the plot of the movie is. |
neta12
| giggity giggity...
800707265, 142490441, 215879628, 445377125
Says quagmire  |
Erimitus
| @neta12 Said
giggity giggity...
800707265, 142490441, 215879628, 445377125
Says quagmire
Not understanding |
Erimitus
| | An event is the beginning, the middle, and the end of an object. <<TZ>> |
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March 24, 2017 @ 01:46:59 am
