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New Post! Nov 13, 2006 @ 05:50:21#31
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jeff133t said:
Although I am not fanatical about the destruction of fetusses, what if the supporters of abortion were all aborted? All I'm saying is that if you would willingly give up your own life on your own choice for your cause? You might say 'well I have a mind', the fetus WOULD have had a mind, but abortion destroyed it. Therefore unless you would burn out the small ember of life in the poor creature, you should prove your willingness by destroying yourself. If not, your opinion on this subject should not be valid.



I didn't see this post before I posted... however I had to comment. Your post is a smidge over the top. I say this b/c the argument of abortion is whether the fetus is considered a living breathing human being. I'm not gonna get into a debate about it, but since when are adults who've lived for years not considered human and should give their lives to support their beliefs? I'm pro choice not a member of a cult. I'm just someone who thinks it's not anyone else's decision but the woman who's pregnant. Your opinion doesn't outweigh mine and vice versa. Don't have an abortion if you don't agree with it, just don't tear anyone down for choosing the opposite of you.


Can't we all just get along?
myvoice last visited March 27, 2007
New Post! Nov 13, 2006 @ 08:01:38#32
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they are shocking pics yes,and i agree they are publisised to ward of abortioners.i wouldnt think the pics are in any way incorrect..as this wld just cause too much havoc................
i can say however i have dealt with embryos and fetus's at varying stages of pregnancy,and can say that most will be formed at the same stage as documented,but some of these will/could possibly have defects in their growth/formation which can alter what is the "norm" for that stage in development...........

i do believe that these pics are indeed correct gestation in pregnancy................

going a bit back now sorry in posts,but someone commented why would pics be taken of these babies.well infact abortions are looked at carefully indeed using different methods.under a microscope in early pegnancy..this is done to document that all of the pregnancy has been expelled..they account for limbs,placents,cord etc..as leaving any behind would threaten the woman health rapidly...picyures are a option at this point..they wld never be documented or shown in the woman medical notes (the abortion wld tho)..but procedures like this are kept in huge files for medical purposes.and do so for many many years...some medical proffesions can indeed be taught by means of documentation and pictures of varying procedures....you can view abortions being performed on the net on a search and their has been one televised..its a medical procedure and is legal in the uk..that shld show something in itself..if it was viewed as so wrong..why isnt it illegal here !!!


you said WHAT!!!!!

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New Post! Jan 13, 2007 @ 00:06:01#33
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Well I think Abortion is ok in the very beginning when it really has no functions....and for the religious people out there if you look at the 7 deadly SINS Murder is not one of them! Anger, Greed, Sloth, Gluttony, Pride, Envy, and Lust. These are the things through which we "commit Murder" but we ALL do these everyday....so who are we to judge?

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New Post! Jan 13, 2007 @ 01:44:33#34
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angeldelight said:
i have been so suprised on here,at the lack of knowledge on the varying stages of pregnancy and how big fetuses are and what they look like within the abortion guidelines (24 weeks) that i am posting these pics so you all now what were dealing with here.im not against abortion at all.just thought i would add this for a bit extra knowledge.

Week 2

Fertilization, the joining of the sperm and the egg in the fallopian tube (below) to form a unique human being, occurs. Forty-six chromosomes provide the blueprint for the embryo’s physical characteristics.


Week 7

Major organs have all begun to form. The embryo has developed its own blood type, unique from the mother’s. Hair follicles and nipples form and knees and elbows are visible. Facial features are also observable. The eyes have a retina and lens. The major muscle system is developed and the embryo is able to move.


Week 8


The embryo is reactive to its environment inside the amniotic sac where it swims and moves. Hands and feet can be seen. At the end of week 8, the embryonic period is over and the fetal stage begins.


Weeks 13-16

The brain is fully developed and the fetus can suck, swallow, and make irregular breathing sounds. Fetus can feel pain (New England Journal of Medicine). Fetal skin is almost transparent. Muscles tissue is lengthening and bones are becoming harder. Liver and organs produce appropriate fluids. Eyebrows and eyelashes appear and the fetus makes active movements including kicks and even somersaults.


A protective waxy substance called Vernix covers the skin. By birth, most of the vernix will be gone but any that is left is quickly absorbed. Fetus has a hand and startle reflex. Footprints and fingerprints are forming. Fetus practices breathing by inhaling amniotic fluid into its developing lungs.



the only thing that i find "shocking" is that your agenda is so clear, yet you frequently denie it.

from what I can tell, virtually the only thing you post about is "shock factor" pictures of abortion.



you're a hypocriticizer too so stfu
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New Post! Feb 14, 2007 @ 19:33:49#35
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regardless...its a cell,i agree after 2 months, its a living being, but beforehand, its a cell, no matter what shape or size...

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New Post! Feb 14, 2007 @ 19:52:23#36
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Why would you spend your time looking at aborted fetuses?


If it's white, sticky and not yours dont touch it.



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New Post! Feb 14, 2007 @ 21:23:12#37
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hallucinogenic_lipstick said:
Why would you spend your time looking at aborted fetuses?


Yes i was wondering that as well...
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New Post! Feb 16, 2007 @ 16:11:56#38
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jmo said:
No it isn't.

It has no conscience, it has no memory, no productive brain, nothing. Other than the fact it is inside someone, it is just like a group of cells in a test tube. It's less of a life than a fly, but you don't see people protesting about fly swatting.



Really? Do you think it would be pkay to kill a newborn baby who's in a coma, no conscience developed yet, no memory, no productive brain, no time to develop a personality and no concious thought? Is that really your criteria as to whether or not a human being is worthy of life and one that is not?

What about Alzheimer's patients? They don't fit your criteria either.


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New Post! Feb 16, 2007 @ 16:13:19#39
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Okay, I guess i was just on page one, lol. Guess i'll read through the rest of the pages before posting again.


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New Post! Feb 20, 2007 @ 01:37:39#40
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It's not our choice really, I'm a guy, so I don't have any "motherly instincts" about the subject, but to me, until the baby's at least two months, it's life is equal to that of a sperm cell.

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New Post! Mar 23, 2007 @ 15:29:11#41
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I have to say, that if the issue is concsiousness, then it should apply across the board to those who are wihtout concsiousness as we can understand it. I don't know if you believe in the animating spirit, that invisible force that gives us more than organ functioning...

The replies here amaze me with the occasional brutality. WE argue in luxury- to say so easily it's wrong it's right, the baby is not a baby, or it's cold and immoral to perform such an act-

how many of us are actually pregnant? How many of us have stood in the place of that decision? I laugh at politicians (especially men) that argue one way or the other with such conviction. They have no idea what it means to be in that place.

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New Post! Mar 23, 2007 @ 15:33:16#42
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I highly recommend that you go through websites that have women talking about life post-abortion. There's more pain than you would think, and if it was like removing a benign tumor, there wouldn't be that. Even if you don't believe it's a life early on, it will be in a few weeks. Just the idea that at three weeks, there's a seperate heartbeat. That kills me.

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New Post! Mar 23, 2007 @ 15:39:03#43
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jmo said:
No it isn't.

It has no conscience, it has no memory, no productive brain, nothing. Other than the fact it is inside someone, it is just like a group of cells in a test tube. It's less of a life than a fly, but you don't see people protesting about fly swatting.


Considering the source....
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New Post! Mar 26, 2007 @ 18:14:57#44
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raditz8526 said:
Considering the source....


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New Post! Sep 16, 2007 @ 23:34:41#45
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Hi guys

Thanks for the pics angeldelight. I'm a mother - so am well aware of the stages of pregnancy.

Even though I am a mother, I still believe that women should be allowed to abort if they feel it is necessary. Personally I could and would never do it - but that doesn't mean no one else can!

I believe that if abortion was made illegal, cases of abuse and neglect against children would increase because the children would be unwanted. Also, backyard abortion would again come into practice and would harm many foetuses and mothers.

There is a HUUUUUUUGE difference between an embryo and a baby. Although I don't think abortion is a nice thing AT ALL, you can't call an embryo a baby because it's not. Hopefully in most cases one day it will be a baby, but it's not a baby yet!

I always thought that abortion was only used on embryos up to 13 weeks unless it was extenuating circumstances?! I think it is here in Aussie, anyway. I would like to know when a foetus develops a central nervous system because that is what makes humans feel pain - the brain only sends messages to our body but doesn't actually feel pain.

I think women who want an abortion have to go through enough without seeing pictures and being told that they are aborting their "baby". It's ridiculous. Women who are going to have an abortion have to go through quite strict counselling - a good thing, of course. I think it would be very dangerous to let a woman have an abortion if she wasn't 100% sure about it.

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