OK, as someone who actually lives in a place with lots of asian muslims (A lot commenting on here do not).

Asians do not come over here and get council houses. For various reasons, this is very rare (A look at where the BNP were getting most votes sorta provides a big clue to that though).

"English" people are not sleeping on the street due to immigration. Other reasons yes - but not that.

Coming over and then marrying someone from Pakistan then having 10 kids - well, yes. This is something Labour MP Ann Cryer has been highlighting - and then attracted criticism from the usual suspects who don't like the truth being pointed out. It is a problem in that some problems are being imported - poor language grasp for example, and also some third world ideas into the UK where women actually have rights to choose etc. The MP who is very up on women's rights has pointed this out - but it's one of the "must not says" it seems.
As for having 10 kids, well we can't exactly start saying how many kids people can and can't have. Maybe one day we will have to, but we're a long way off that sort of society yet.

Racial attacks - well this seems to get hushed up, and this is causing resentment. There are increasing attacks on whites by especially asians. Some parts of towns are no-go areas for anyone non-asian - both black and white.
Having said that -the estates on the edge of town are no-go areas for asians - go figure. The whole thing needs debate out in the open without the tossers screaming any attempt at debate down as "racist, racist, racist".


As for the original subject of Islam, lets get some things straight.

Jihad can only be declared on combatants, it can not be declared on general public. Terrorism is unislamic.

Suicide is prohibited, it's haram. Suicide bombers - unislamic.

Racism is prohibited - Islam actually bans it

Still, just like Christians, the followers of Christ who preached loving your neighbour - they've been killing each other and other religions for the last two thousand years arguing on the finer points on just how his love should be shown. It's easy to twist religion.



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patriotism is not a problem at all, im proud of england in all aspects, i dontagree that being proud of your country is on par with racism at all. hedkandi on here moved back from barbados cuz she loves england

immigration can and has made people homeless. maybe not sleeping on the streets but certainly on mates sofas for longer than is reasonable. im english, this is england. sort our future out before every other f**kers!


the above is all meant in the best PAHSSIBLE taste

i dunno, bulls**t, there's plenty for everyone so far.
it seems like paronia, immigration has been extremely important and productive throughout history.

its important to control it of course but it certainly hasdn't hit crisis levels or anything, its just a scapegoat to focus on when the economy takes a downturn.

The only Muslims forcing there religion on non-Muslims are the extremest Muslims.

The non-extremest Muslims are probably the nicest people you will ever meet.


"My advice to you, my violent friend, is to seek out gold and sit on it."

also in response to the original thread the qur'an is no more violent than the bible,
its all in interpretation.

just as the bible has been used to promoteviolence and hatred in the past (and today i guess) the qur'an is being used today by many people.
but not that many, extremists just get more attention no matter what issue you're discussing.

thing is its not their individual fault, its just what theyre used to in their own country so it ends up over here much the same. theres fines going about for littering so why not if your found to be throwing your junk out on the street, then your made to clean it up! (thats whites as much as anyone before anyone starts )


the above is all meant in the best PAHSSIBLE taste

When i lived in Leeds the majority of my neighbours were muslims and to be fair they were more kind and considerate than many of the white people that lived on my street! From my own personal experiences muslims are generally very tolerant of different cultures and belief systems and just want to live a quiet peaceful life like many of us do. Obviously you get exceptions to the rule and muslims who are extremists, but then again i see various other religious extremists every time i go shopping in town trying to sell jesus to me or whatever other religion they may be following. From what i witnessed in Leeds it was very often i'm ashamed to say white people who began any arguments in the street etc between race, culture and religion. I think people should take more time learning about different countries, cultures and religions... then maybe a lot of the hear say that tends to fly around would decrease to a certain degree. I've found in life don't judge a person on their colour, race, sexuality or religion judge the person on how you find them as an individual i know it works for me but hey that's just my thoughts on the subject and i don't expect everyone to agree with them

what they should do first is at least tell them to clean it up themselves and if they refuse, then send a bill. i dont like this nano culture of instant fines and charges for any little thing, theres other solutions before you have to do that


the above is all meant in the best PAHSSIBLE taste