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New Post! Nov 23, 2007 @ 18:10:09#16
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So many people around the World are intolerant of so many things.

There are many good Christians. My ex-father in law was such a man...never said a bad word about anybody..always eager to lend a hand...giving to his church..patient. I admire him really. And there are many "good Muslims" I have met too. They never pushed their religion on to me. I never heard any of them cut down other religions. But Im sure they do exist. And Christians cutting down another beliefs exist too.

It seems odd though that religious people of these faiths, should be setting themselves to be good examples, yet they demonstrate the bad.

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New Post! Jan 11, 2008 @ 15:44:49#18
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armybuff said:
I highly dissagree. As a major, and someone who has gone to military college, and been in wars with Muslims and Islams. I say that both are all terrorists. You look at all of the countries, and they both stick out the most, in terrorism. Why do you rarely hear of a white terrorist, or a Spanish terrorist? Because Pretty much all of the terrorists are Muslim or Islam.


Hm.

Think about the two largest terrorist attacks ever to occur on US soil.

One was perpretrated by Muslims.


But the other?

A white American ex-Army soldier who fought in the Gulf War and achieved an honorable discharge.


I must say it's quite disturbing and sad that "our side" has people who think "they're all terrorists" fighting for it.


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New Post! Jan 11, 2008 @ 15:48:21#19
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armybuff said:
Why do you rarely hear of a white terrorist,


What like, other than Timothy McVeigh and a raft of others?

armybuff said:
or a Spanish terrorist?


Like Basque Separatists you mean?


I respect that you've been in the front line, but also feel it may have skewed your view somewhat. That the people you are fighting are Muslims does not mean all Muslims are terrorists. It's not a two way implication. You may be able to say "most terrorists are Muslim", or even "all terrorists are Muslim", but the inverse is not necessarily true.

I'm here to let you know that I work with a lot of Muslims, both in the United States, and in their home nations. Most Muslims are just like you and I, they want only to make their way through life, providing food and support for their families. They couldn't give a crap about the US. Many are employed by US corporations (my company employs many in the region), and happy to be so.

Again, I respect, and do not refute your personal experience. But most Muslims are not terrorists, even if you believe most terrorists are Muslim.


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New Post! Jan 11, 2008 @ 15:55:49#20
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You know, lots of Muslims are US citizens and have lived here for generations.

Muslim doesn't mean Arab.


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New Post! Jan 12, 2008 @ 00:29:44#21
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stumblinthrulife said:
Like Basque Separatists you mean?


I respect that you've been in the front line, but also feel it may have skewed your view somewhat. That the people you are fighting are Muslims does not mean all Muslims are terrorists. It's not a two way implication. You may be able to say "most terrorists are Muslim", or even "all terrorists are Muslim", but the inverse is not necessarily true.

I'm here to let you know that I work with a lot of Muslims, both in the United States, and in their home nations. Most Muslims are just like you and I, they want only to make their way through life, providing food and support for their families. They couldn't give a crap about the US. Many are employed by US corporations (my company employs many in the region), and happy to be so.

Again, I respect, and do not refute your personal experience. But most Muslims are not terrorists, even if you believe most terrorists are Muslim.


then can ya answer this question. while some i get on with very well and wouldnt change that, why do quite alot come across as moody sods and hardly say a thing even though theyre capable of talking english when i serve them in asda?


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New Post! Jan 12, 2008 @ 00:57:34#22
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armybuff said:
I highly dissagree. As a major, and someone who has gone to military college, and been in wars with Muslims and Islams. I say that both are all terrorists. You look at all of the countries, and they both stick out the most, in terrorism. Why do you rarely hear of a white terrorist, or a Spanish terrorist? Because Pretty much all of the terrorists are Muslim or Islam.


You say Muslims and Islams. Muslims belong to the religious group that practices Islam; I don't know about calling them Islams

Look at all of the countries.
* Afghanistan
* Algeria
* Azerbaijan
* Bahrain
* Bangladesh
* Bosnia and Herzegovina *
* Burkina Faso *
* Brunei
* Chad *
* Comoros
* Côte d'Ivoire *
* Djibouti
* Eritrea *
* Egypt
* Gambia
* Guinea
* Indonesia
* Iran
* Iraq
* Jordan
* Kuwait
* Kazakhstan *
* Kyrgyzstan
* Lebanon
* Libya
* Maldives
* Malaysia
* Mali
* Mauritania
* Morocco
* Niger
* Nigeria *
* Oman
* Pakistan
* Qatar
* Saudi Arabia
* Senegal
* Sierra Leone
* Somalia
* Sudan
* Syria
* Tajikistan
* Turkey
* Tunisia
* Turkmenistan
* Uzbekistan
* United Arab Emirates
* Yemen

Thats one broad statement you made there.

Did you ever think that the current regime wants you to "think" that Muslims are the bad guy? Because, in your position, a second thought that would make them people, might make you doubt your job. Military, not just ours, but historically speaking, tries to dehumanize the other side so that it is easier to fight, and yes, to kill.

And obviously, if you had even taken the time to crack the Qur'an you would know that the extremists are as about as religious as Rush Limbaugh, and they do not practice anything but hypocrisy.

People forget, Muhammed Ali is a Muslim and and has been since 1975. Don't see him blowing up anything.


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New Post! Jan 12, 2008 @ 17:08:50#23
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rockdave said:
then can ya answer this question. while some i get on with very well and wouldnt change that, why do quite alot come across as moody sods and hardly say a thing even though theyre capable of talking english when i serve them in asda?


Because some Muslims are moody sods. Just like some English are moody sods. And some Americans are moody sods. Just because some of them don't want to talk to you doesn't mean they are all terrorists for crying out loud.

Frankly, given the number of bigoted assholes that think they're all terrorists and that we should turn the middle east into a sea of glass, I'd probably be a little wary around us too.


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New Post! Jan 12, 2008 @ 17:20:25#24
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stumblinthrulife said:
Because some Muslims are moody sods. Just like some English are moody sods. And some Americans are moody sods. Just because some of them don't want to talk to you doesn't mean they are all terrorists for crying out loud.

Frankly, given the number of bigoted assholes that think they're all terrorists and that we should turn the middle east into a sea of glass, I'd probably be a little wary around us too.


And also because some religious people are terrorists, as are some non religious people. Some terrorists are religious and some are not too.

It is very handy to lump a whole race of people together and give them a character trait.....handy and racist.

Religion is usually based on a pure message from the "enlightened one" which is subsequently misinterpreted by all of us stupid sods that aren't enlightened.
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New Post! Jan 12, 2008 @ 17:21:31#25
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stumblinthrulife said:
Just like some English are moody sods.

Sorry I have to dispute that comment. We are a happy, carefree, welcoming, loving race of people.


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New Post! Jan 12, 2008 @ 23:26:34#26
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are we f**k we take the piss out of everything


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New Post! Jan 14, 2008 @ 16:56:21#27
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cyrus said:
Sorry I have to dispute that comment. We are a happy, carefree, welcoming, loving race of people.


Bollocks.

I'm English. I lived in England until I was 26.

Some English are happy, carefree, welcoming and loving. Many are miserable bastards who like to complain about f**king everything and are only happy when they are complaining. What's more, they will complain about everything from the NHS to illegal immigration, even if they've personally felt no ill effects from them whatsoever.

Just like the rest of the western world, really.


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New Post! Jan 14, 2008 @ 17:11:00#28
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armybuff said:
I highly dissagree. As a major, and someone who has gone to military college, and been in wars with Muslims and Islams. I say that both are all terrorists. You look at all of the countries, and they both stick out the most, in terrorism. Why do you rarely hear of a white terrorist, or a Spanish terrorist? Because Pretty much all of the terrorists are Muslim or Islam.


Thats way to much of a generalization. Ive tree planted with muslims who come to this country so they don't have to join the army. They read and know the koran and from what ive heard most muslems are peace loveing people who even though they don't like the U.S. would never harm anyone. They say the Koran teaches not to take lives for any reason aswell.

Theres a big difference between a muslim exstremist and a muslim. Most are the latter who don't believe in violence.

It's sad to see that the propaganda they feed you causes such generalizations.

You say where are the white terrorists? Look no further then president bush who started a war that can't be won. Or how about past presidents that were responsible for the training of bin laden. Not to mention the support and millions of U.S. taxpayer money that was used to give sadam a decent army. Why? so sadam could do there meddeling for them.

In all the u.s. greatest emimies were in fact created by the u.s.
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New Post! Jan 14, 2008 @ 22:30:16#29
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stumblinthrulife said:
Bollocks.

I'm English. I lived in England until I was 26.

Some English are happy, carefree, welcoming and loving. Many are miserable bastards who like to complain about f**king everything and are only happy when they are complaining. What's more, they will complain about everything from the NHS to illegal immigration, even if they've personally felt no ill effects from them whatsoever.

Just like the rest of the western world, really.


i got no complaints about the nhs cuz ive never had to go to hospital really, but when you look in to it far enough immigration is to blame for terrorism. after all england is a christian country and the recent load of terrorists like 7/7 and glasgow airport were muslims and islam their religion originates overseas (i would say asia but i cant say as i know that to be true)at the end of the day the british love complaining myself included, although the irish beat the english hands down when it comes to complaining (try spending a day at my grandads then you'll know!) just cuz i got no desire to know everything about their religion does that make me racist? cuz if you answer yes your a deeply sad person i love england and i love the english people, people from certain countries have certain characteristics you might call 'stereotypes' but they're stereotypes for a very good reason.


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New Post! Jan 14, 2008 @ 22:54:38#30
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rockdave said:
i got no complaints about the nhs cuz ive never had to go to hospital really, but when you look in to it far enough immigration is to blame for terrorism. after all england is a christian country and the recent load of terrorists like 7/7 and glasgow airport were muslims and islam their religion originates overseas (i would say asia but i cant say as i know that to be true)at the end of the day the british love complaining myself included, although the irish beat the english hands down when it comes to complaining (try spending a day at my grandads then you'll know!) just cuz i got no desire to know everything about their religion does that make me racist? cuz if you answer yes your a deeply sad person i love england and i love the english people, people from certain countries have certain characteristics you might call 'stereotypes' but they're stereotypes for a very good reason.


Since when did I ever say you had to know everything about their religion? Since when did I say you had to know anything about their religion?

Just accept that the vast majority of Muslims are just like you and I, and that they are not all terrorists.


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