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May 30, 2008 @ 21:43:08

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chopper69

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Did any of you ever watch "blazing Saddles" by mel brooks?
Talk about one up for the minoraties Laffed my a** off all the way through that film!

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May 30, 2008 @ 22:24:51

#137

moonscar

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I never saw that film before

Is it laughable because it's a comedy?

May 31, 2008 @ 18:21:29

#138

chopper69

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Its very comedy! you should get a hold of it

you never heard such genuine frontier giberish! "Reverend"

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May 31, 2008 @ 19:02:47

#139

woodsba

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As a white woman, it became obvious to me that while working class......as a white I am given preferential treatment in areas of employment, schooling, some parts of our society and American institutions. This should not exist in a democracy and diminishes the quality of democracy we live under.

One does have to wonder the answer to that question. Our history has not been filled with those already citizens welcoming new immigrants especially people of color with open arms. Seems every 'minority' has had to battle for the rights set forth in our constitution....of all races.

The bottom line is this.......the answer is NO!!! The constitution is not only written for whites. But sadly, you have to battle to achieve those rights. Never give up and never give in!!

Jun 01, 2008 @ 17:38:42

#140

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"REVEREND"

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Jun 01, 2008 @ 17:44:46

#141

paisleyspeaker

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beanpop said:
Whites( America especially) as done more for africa then the africans have. We have provided aid to them and even sent over troops to help establish democracy, which has cost us men, men that have families.So before you bad talk america and how you think the constitution only applies to whites, know what your talking about... And although this wanst in the constitution but instead in the Declaration of Independence, the famous line all men are created equal, only meant that all white men were created equal and if you dont believe and just think im a racist f**k, look it up. Thomas Jefferson its author owned slaves.Oh yeah and for the record blacks owned blacks so whites werent the only ones who enslaved.

Are you an Eglin AFB military brat? You sound like someone who has been brainwashed by a military community. You say that people should know what they are talking about before they bad talk America. Well you should take your own advice when it comes to Africa. Many of the things you claim that white people and America has saved Africa from were caused if not by American's but by the Europeans they decended from. America interfered in African politics, killed democratically elected leaders because we didn't like their politics, we have installed dictators because they would pander to our corperations. White men divided up the African contenent each taking their part of it's natrual resources, and forced the natives to mine them.

There may be great examples of the good that America and white people have done, but Africa is not one of them.

And as for the constitution, there was more than just Jefferson involved in the creation of that document, and discussion about slavery nearly prevented that document from ever being signed, or ratified. Jefferson is a complicated figure anyway, as he had ongoing relationships with the black women he owned, and freed many of his slaves upon his death. There were many representives from the northern colonies that argued that if all men were created equal, that black men must be included in that statement. In order to get the constitution signed and ratified the 'founding fathers' had to remove all traces of slavery from the document. In Vermont, New Hamphire and Massechusetts the state constitutions all contained language that condemed slavery.

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Jun 01, 2008 @ 18:05:40

#142

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pq said:
I know. I actually read an article that was published about 10 years ago that found that white store patrons were more likely to steal than black store patrons. This is mainly because they know the store will pay more attention to the black guy and less on them. The group that's most likely to steal? White women. Group most likely to get falsely accused? Black male.

Your right. I have worked in retail for over a decade now, and I have learned that unless there are specific clues (looking at the staff more than anything else in the store etc) you miss too much profiling racially. The nicer the store the more likely the shoplifters are white women in their thirties. I have also worked in gas station stores and there it's really the age of people we look at.

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Jun 01, 2008 @ 18:15:29

#143

paisleyspeaker

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There are a few other things I want to add, if I have missed them in someone else's posts I apologise.

1. Racism is still written into our laws, you need to look no further than New York's Rockefeller drug laws. All drug laws were passed using fear of mexicans and black jazz musicians ( just watch Reefer Madness) The Rockefeller laws are mush more recent. Under these laws the sentence for crack cocaine is far, far heavier tan the sentence for powder cocaine, and the law was written that way to protect the upper cla** whites who liked their blow.

2. Much of the behavior I read about at the begining of the thread ( shut up and keep your head down) could just as easily be defined as classist behavior. Those who have traditionally treat those who don't have like s**t. I am however not naive, and I know that those who have are traditonally white, and those who have not are esentialy everyone else.

an angel follows us
a ghost precedes us
and everytime we stop , we fall

Forgive me Father, for I know what I do
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J. Morrison

Jun 03, 2008 @ 19:26:49

#144

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"Reverend"

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Jun 03, 2008 @ 19:54:02

#145

mackandal

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Though the Constitution states freedom, justice and equality for all, it did *NOT* apply to African Americans when it was written because African Americans were considered to be only three-fifths human at the time. Also, if the Constitution was originally written to grant *ALL* Americans the same rights the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s would not have been needed.

Jun 03, 2008 @ 19:57:22

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mackandal said:
Though the Constitution states freedom, justice and equality for all, it did *NOT* apply to African Americans when it was written because African Americans were considered to be only three-fifths human at the time. Also, if the Constitution was originally written to grant *ALL* Americans the same rights the Civil Rights Movement of the 1960s would not have been needed.

Past tense.
We're talking about the present now.
Besides, that's what the amendments were for. Surprise!

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Jun 03, 2008 @ 20:04:27

#147

mackandal

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spicedsugar said:
Past tense.
We're talking about the present now.
Besides, that's what the amendments were for. Surprise!

Well, lets talk about now, are African Americans enjoying the full rights accorded to them under the Constitution? Hell, no! Voter disenfranchisement is still an issue, for example. The amendments ended slavery, big deal, but look at what happened after slavery, more of the same.

Jun 03, 2008 @ 20:28:36

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jonnythan

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There is a problem with them "enjoying" the full rights accorded to them under the Constitution, but those rights are accorded to them under the Constitution.

These are two different issues.

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