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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:08:19

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:12:49

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I personally can't say whether the moon landings did or did not happen. I wasn't born then.

I will, on occasion laugh and joke about it being a hoax, but in reality it is difficult to keep such a large scale hoax under wraps for nearly 40 years.

If it were a hoax, one would assume it would be leaked (and I mean properly, not but conspiracy theorists) but now.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:18:40

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If it were a hoax, one would assume that *some* aspect of the myriad of photos or videos would show *one* inconsistency.

But they don't. Every single detail about every one of the thousands of frames of still photos and video is exactly right.

Indeed, some of the things that appear to be inconsistencies or errors are actually totally correct given the significantly different environment on the lunar surface. In fact, many things we see in the photos and videos would be virtually impossible to replicate on the surface of the earth.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:18:41

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Of course we landed on the moon. The govenment is too busy trying to cover up other things for the landing on the moon to be fake.

With the way technology is progressing and all of the new things we are learning about the solar system, landing on the moon is no longer a big deal.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:21:02

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Now I'v got that damn REM song stuck in my head.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:22:09

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mlissabeth said:
With the way technology is progressing and all of the new things we are learning about the solar system, landing on the moon is no longer a big deal.

Actually, it is.

We haven't been to the moon in 36 years. Virtually every human being who worked on the projects that got us to the moon have retired and/or died.

Sure, they have papers and journals and schematics and so forth, but just about no one currently in NASA has ever worked on or with any of that data.

Long story short, no one currently left in our space program knows all that much about the actual mechanics of putting someone on the moon. It would be a massive undertaking, with all-new technology, vehicles, designs, and testing, to get us back there. It would be immensely expensive and difficult.

Remember, with the equipment that exists today, the best we can do is put a few people in orbit around the Earth for a few days. The moon ranges up to one thousand times farther away from Earth than current technology can take us.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:26:18

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And, guys, remember - we didn't land on the moon once, in 1969.

We landed six times: twice in 1969, twice in 1971, and twice in 1972. One mission in 1970, Apollo 13, was aborted en route due to equipment malfunction.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:28:07

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I'd love to see anyone here try to recreate this Apollo 17 video with 1972-era technology:

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:30:27

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Or this one.

Note how the flag waves under its own weight as they swing it back and forth, but, as soon as they stop touching it, it's dead motionless.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:31:11

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jonnythan said:
Actually, it is.

We haven't been to the moon in 36 years. Virtually every human being who worked on the projects that got us to the moon have retired and/or died.

Sure, they have papers and journals and schematics and so forth, but just about no one currently in NASA has ever worked on or with any of that data.

Long story short, no one currently left in our space program knows all that much about the actual mechanics of putting someone on the moon. It would be a massive undertaking, with all-new technology, vehicles, designs, and testing, to get us back there. It would be immensely expensive and difficult.

Remember, with the equipment that exists today, the best we can do is put a few people in orbit around the Earth for a few days. The moon ranges up to one thousand times farther away from Earth than current technology can take us.

I was under the impression that the exploration of our solar system has been getting more and more in depth as we progress. And with that, everyone's knowledge on the subject.
I would think that even though most of those original people are no longer around, there would be a continued study of making the trip. I would hate to think that idea of, "hey, we made the trip. No need to invest much in it anymore," sentiment is around.

Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:33:14

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Or this one. Look at how he falls down and holds himself mostly up with one hand, then tosses his entire body in the air with two hands.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:34:03

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mlissabeth said:
I would hate to think that idea of, "hey, we made the trip. No need to invest much in it anymore," sentiment is around.

And I am sure that isn't the mind set, but I do want to continue to believe that space exploration is going to continue to get more involved.

Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:35:46

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mlissabeth said:
I was under the impression that the exploration of our solar system has been getting more and more in depth as we progress. And with that, everyone's knowledge on the subject.
I would think that even though most of those original people are no longer around, there would be a continued study of making the trip. I would hate to think that idea of, "hey, we made the trip. No need to invest much in it anymore," sentiment is around.

That "no real need to invest in it" attitude is very much prevalent. There's little reason to send people back there at the moment.

But make no mistake - if we wanted to, it would be incredibly difficult. The vast majority of the knowledge from the previous Apollo missions is lost, because no one currently in NASA worked on them.

The equipment, vehicles, and technology just aren't there anymore. While we push unmanned vessels farther and farther, in the past 36 years the farthest we've gotten from the surface of the earth is about 400 miles. The moon is 240,000 miles away.

It would be a truly massive undertaking that would need to start almost from the ground up to get man back on the moon.

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Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:45:00

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jonnythan said:
That "no real need to invest in it" attitude is very much prevalent. There's little reason to send people back there at the moment.

Well of course there's little reason to send them back there except for continued understanding and learning. Shouldn't that reason be good enough. That's the reason almost anything is done. To learn and understand more.

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It would be a truly massive undertaking that would need to start almost from the ground up to get man back on the moon.

I didn't realize it would be such a task. I would have thought that as much as we know now, going back to the moon would have been on the somewhat simpler side of it. As complicated as space travel is, I know that sounds bad but I meant it in the idea that when something is first done, it is usually improved upon.

Jun 02, 2008 @ 14:50:56

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mlissabeth said:
when something is first done, it is usually improved upon.

It usually is, yes.

But when an organization does something, then doesn't try it again until every single human being who did it the first time is gone, they have to pretty much start over.

"I sprinkled some baking powder over a couple of potatoes, but it didn't work."

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