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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:01:14#1
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consider going to Auschwitz? For instance, if you were in Poland and you had the opportunity, would you go? They have tours, museums, ect.




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:03:55#2
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I wouldn't go if I was on holiday or anything, I wouldn't want to go to upsetting places if it was part of trying to relax. However, there is a college trip to Aushwitz that I may consider going on as it sounds interesting. I think it's a horrible place but is also so interesting in order to try and get a sense of the hell those poor people went through during the Second World War.




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:12:13#3
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Why not? I would. It would be a good learning experience.




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:14:01#4
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Why not? I would. It would be a good learning experience.


That's pretty much how I feel.



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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:18:52#5
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we had a german teacher teach at our school 2 years ago, she said that she went on a school trip and the experience was numbing! apparently, there is still a huge pile of hair left there from when the jews had their heads shaved!

I would go if given the chance!




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:25:34#6
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I dont know, to be honest. Its not like i dont want to know, its just that what i have seen and read is so sad.

I cant look upon these things and not think how it must have felt, how scared the children were, how much pain and agony people felt, how unfair it was. Its almost as if a tiny part of me loses faith in life itself.

Knowing my temperament i probably wouldn't go, it would take me many years to get to terms with it in my mind and i probably wouldn't get over it.

Its not a case of wanting to bury my head in the sand because i am all too aware of the things that happened there. Its just they affect me to the point of breaking my mental health.




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:27:19#7
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I dont know, to be honest. Its not like i dont want to know, its just that what i have seen and read is so sad.

I cant look upon these things and not think how it must have felt, how scared the children were, how much pain and agony people felt, how unfair it was. Its almost as if a tiny part of me loses faith in life itself.

Knowing my temperament i probably wouldn't go, it would take me many years to get to terms with it in my mind and i probably wouldn't get over it.

Its not a case of wanting to bury my head in the sand because i am all too aware of the things that happened there. Its just they affect me to the point of breaking my mental health.


No no, that's totally understandable.

My mom is Austrian, and is a little bit Jewish. Her grandparents were from Austria and Germany. She told me flat out that she would never go.
And the holocaust is something VERY sensitive to her.



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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:30:10#8
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First of all Auschwitz is in Poland. Two of my children went there on school trips and it really changed their outlook on life.




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:31:20#9
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Sophie\'s Choice I never got over that. Today it still haunts me, even though i am glad to have had the experience of reading it, it disturbed me so badly.




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:32:28#10
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I would go. I think that it's something everyone needs to see for themselves. The result of letting a ruthless madman and his cronies into power.

It is sad though. My flatmate went there on a school trip and when they came back they went to schools around Scotland to tell others about it. David Cameron called the enterprise "propaganda". She said that the trip happened so quickly that it didn't hit her until she got home. Then it all came on at once and she felt literally heart-broken.




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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:35:25#11
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cjm31 said:

First of all Auschwitz is in Poland. Two of my children went there on school trips and it really changed their outlook on life.


Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it's in Germany. Not that it means anything.. but when Iread the Boy In The Striped Pajamas it was about a boy who moved from Berlin to rural Germany and he met a little boy from Auschwitz? Idk.. maybe I'm totally wrong..



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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 10:36:12#12
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Sophie\'s Choice I never got over that. Today it still haunts me, even though i am glad to have had the experience of reading it, it disturbed me so badly.



Ooh... I wanna read.



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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 12:00:38#13
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Kristy69 said:

Are you sure? I'm pretty sure it's in Germany. Not that it means anything.. but when Iread the Boy In The Striped Pajamas it was about a boy who moved from Berlin to rural Germany and he met a little boy from Auschwitz? Idk.. maybe I'm totally wrong..





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Auschwitz-Birkenau became the killing centre where the largest numbers of European Jews were killed during the Holocaust. After an experimental gassing there in September 1941 of 850 malnourished and ill prisoners, mass murder became a daily routine. By mid 1942, mass gassing of Jews using Zyklon-B began at Auschwitz, where extermination was conducted on an industrial scale with some estimates running as high as three million persons eventually killed through gassing, starvation, disease, shooting, and burning ...

9 out of 10 were Jews. In addition, Gypsies, Soviet POWs, and prisoners of all nationalities died in the gas chambers. Between May 14 and July 8,1944, 437,402 Hungarian Jews were deported to Auschwitz in 148 trains. This was probably the largest single mass deportation during the Holocaust.

Auschwitz-Birkenau, Nazi Germany's largest concentration and extermination camp facility, was located nearby the provincial Polish town of Oshwiecim in Galacia, and was established by order of Reichsfuhrer SS Heinrich Himmler on 27 April 1940. Private diaries of Goebbels and Himmler unearthed from the secret Soviet archives show that Adolf Hitler personally ordered the mass extermination of the Jews during a meeting of Nazi German regional governors in the chancellery. As Goebbels wrote "With regards to the Jewish question, the Fuhrer decided to make a clean sweep ..."



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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 12:01:57#14
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Poland.


Why thank you, good sir. I'll be sure to edit that.



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Old Post! May 31, 2009 @ 14:22:32#15
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My brother went there a couple of times he went to visit my father. I think I'd be setting myself up for a thoroughly depressing day, but I think it's something that is really important to be aware of.

I took a class in high school that concentrated on racism and genocides. We were lucky enough to have a few guest speakers, one former American liberator, one Holocaust survivor, and another survivor from the Rwandan genocide. Listening to their stories was such an awesome experience. Very sad, no doubt, but very different from reading about it in a history book. I'd imagine visiting a concentration camp would have a similar effect.




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