rockdave said:
you see its that kinda thinking that makes white people look exactly like the racist stereotype were trying to get away from i wish people would stop referring to the slavery days... were along way past that now and you just drag it all back there

blackwidowbambi said:
The subject of this topic is sooo old. I keep hoping that it will just go away. It's done a different way everyday. Racism is wrong no matter the color of the offender. We all bleed red and spend green, so the color of one's skin shouldn't matter to anyone. That being said...there is only one race of people that I hate....THE HUMAN RACE!!!

moonscar said:
Um that's really not fair. For your information it is very rare for a black person to be a true racist. I say that because the definition of racist is to believe that another race is inferior in every way to you based on how they look. You don't see many black people going " Whites are inferior. They should go back to where they came from because everything they do is lesser than us. A Rat is smarter than a white person. They are not even human". No you don't see many black people doing that because they can't afford to think like that. They can't afford to have thoughts that all whites are inferior because in history whites have always put them second. When a black feels hatred towards a white the term is " Prejudice". Blacks really call whites " Cracker ass" because they feel that whites look down to them which is a lot of times still true. I myself don't think all whites are racist because that would be ignorant. Though there are a bunch of racist whites out there and I laugh to myself every time someone tries to claim that whites are hardly Racist anymore. There are far more racist whites than there are blacks. Again Prejudice and Racist are two different words. When some whites hold ignorant towards blacks they literally talk about them like they are a different species. I don't know where you get your facts but I know that there are a lot of white people that show their racism on the internet. Some show it in public but a vast majority of the punks that tell blacks to go back to Africa and call them apes use the internet because they wouldn't dare have a rep as a racist in real life. So really there are a lot of strong racist feelings in whites and there are a lot of strong prejudice in blacks. The only reason blacks keep messing with white people is because whites have a huge rep of being racist. Though I think it is wrong that they label all whites as racist you still can't try to say that their actions make their race more racist than white. There are a lot of incidents where whites are racist " Youtube". So I don't know what you are talking about.

Both "Cracker" and " Nigger" are both words that should never be used. the reason why " Nigger" or "Negro" is more offensive is because it actually has more of a history to it. Blacks would and should be more offended by the word "Nigger" then a white person should be offended by the word " Cracker" because when you call a black person a "Nigger" you are basically supporting the fact that they were slaves. Unless you use it in that stupid hip way that means " Homie" but if you do it as an insult it will be more offensive than the word " Cracker". Again I still think both are wrong words to use but I am just pointing out which is more offensive.

Also Most racism towards Minorities like Blacks and Hispanics come from white people so your little thing on " Racism comes from minority" is far fetched.

I really think we all need to become equal because we are all the human race. Honestly if a black person was an animal and not a human being, then I must be a pretty cool animal to be able to talk,drive,do well in school and play sports

Seriously though we were all put on this Earth and nothing is going to remove us so we might as well work together and stop pretending that we are all a different species. Black + White + Asian + Latin + Portuguese + Indian + etc. = Human race.

moonscar said:
Actually I was just bringing it up because it has a lot to do with why whites think the word " cracker" is just as offensive as the word " Nigger" which it isn't.

bobbimay said:
If you want to be a victim... then be a victim but then don't be surprised when people treat you like just that, a victim.....But then the question must be asked...When exactly does SELF RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONES OWN ACTIONS take over???

You need to research you own history Instead of listening to the race baiters like Jesse Jackson or Rev Wright those "men" have made their fortunes on keeping the black people victims. Why do you think "they" only spout their hate talk within days of a upcoming primary??? It is because they don't want a black President because that would negate all their hate speeches and then "they" would lose all the money they make by keeping blacks as victims.

Guess what your race is not the only race that gets stopped and asked questions while driving.....in this day and age you can get pulled over for driving while tan....Do you not hear what is going on in the southwest?
any one that looks Mexican will get pulled over and asked if they are here legally.....I am an American Indian my "race" tans very well and looks more Mexican then white so we get pulled over just as much as the Mexican race. We on the reservation have made copies of our Tribal identification number and attached them too our car registration. we do this because we on the reservation take responsibility of our own lives and not allow someone else to force feed us the hate filled kool-aid

Good thing the other 90% of Americans know better to take any stock in what people like you say.

Article from Wall Street Journal: By Bill Cosby


"Rev. Wright epitomizes the thoughts and actions that have prevented and continue to prevent black America from moving ahead and achieving their potential as a people. He suggests that this United States of America made up of sons and daughters of immigrants (I'm talking of the millions of 1st, 2nd, 3rd generation immigrants in this country) of every race, creed, color and religion each and everyone of them who had nothing to do with slavery, some how owe something to a group of people who have never been slaves? Its amazing. It seems everyone is to blame for the shambles black society is in with its violence, drugs, high school drop out rates, misogyny, and a host of other real and virulent problems, except for the very people who engage in such behavior. Enough. As a society, culture or people, they should look within themselves and fix their problems. When did this man become the spokesman for the black church? And of course his church is different, but that doesn't mean his message and philosophy is acceptable, or productive or non-offensive or not-racist or indicative or our greater cultural behaviors, values and norms Americans. And yes, the link between this man and Obama really does matter. At a very minimum, it provides insight into the political and philosophical strain that Obama adheres to.
Comment by Bill Cosby"


Dr. Cosby has a valid argument against those who use the past to excuse present behaviors, attitudes, and ethics. If an adult tries to excuse their failures by claiming it is because they were treated wrong as a child, who listens to that? The world does not feel sorry for us or excuse us just because we had a tough life. Why should the world feel sorry if our great-grandparents had a tough life? The point is, what are you doing NOW? Are you still crying about it, or are you getting on with your own life, your own ambitions? Saying, "This is what happened in the past" is all well and good, but to say, "My failure, my communities' failure, and my childrens' failures are also the product of the past" is ignorant. Every individual must come to a point of personal accountability and responsibility. My success and my failure are in my own hands. No one can say that the opportunity is lacking here. There may be prejudice, and there may be a past, but the opportunities are still present. Otherwise, there would be no successes by any other race than white in this country, and clearly, that is not the case. Reverend Wright may think that he is helping empower the black community by fostering an attitude of victimization that never ends, but in reality, he is enabling a weakness of spirit, a "can't do" attitude, and a hostile position of entitlement for a debt that cannot be paid. All black citizens of this country are Americans, just like every other race, color, and creed. This means that everyone has the same priviledges and opportunities NOW, and everyone has the same responsibilities NOW. Not then, not tomorrow, not when we get over it. Today. What are you doing today?

rockdave said:
it is. its a racist term and therefore as bad as anything else. dont justify it by bringing history in to it. its just as bad

moonscar said:
For your information I actually work to achieve myself. I don;t play victims and just because I bring up slavery every now and then doesn't mean I want you to feel sorry for me. I actually know that other races go through a lot and I do not try to use slavery or any other events to try to blame "why I got an F on my test last week". you may think all black people try to be the victim but that isn't true. You don;t know me and you don't know how hard I work. I was just responding to the fact that people think blacks can be more racist. I responded to that thank you very much. Just because I point out the fact that whites can be more racist doesn't mean I am trying to play "victim". Also I want Obama to win. I think he will actually bring change to the world. I have my goals and I work hard in school to make them happen. I don't use slavery as an excuse but as a reason for some of the things that have happened. Some of you people talk about " Why is it more offensive when you call a black etc....". A lot of those answers lies in slavery so expect to hear it. No one is whining about slavery and just because you see a black person on this forum defending blacks when you try to say " Whites are not as racist as blacks" or " Why can blacks make all black schools". Again if you know your history understanding is easy. Ok So bobby no one is trying to be the victim here. I actually try to leave race issues out of my life. Heck half the time people are in question to what race I am because I am a light skinned black. You assuming that I think that blacks have it the worse is just ignorance in thinking that " blacks complain too much". You may have encountered many blacks that blame slavery for everything but I don't use slavery as an excuse to why I fail sometimes. So let's just get that straight.

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I point out the fact that whites can be more racist doesn't mean I am trying to play "victim"

bobbimay said:

moonscar said:
So what if I do. Maybe the discussion interests me. That doesn't mean I am trying to be the victim. A lot of people are interested in this kind of social subject. Why don't you try looking at in at a more open minded direction?


Also yeah there are a lot of racist things that white people do. though I don;t let that stop me from doing what I need to do. I just like to prove people wrong when they try to make claims that blacks are more racist and that whites have stopped being racist. I mean I personally think that every race has it's share of racists or prejudice. Nothing wrong with discussions about it. The topics just interest me. You act as if I personally blame racism for my failures but that is not me at all. That's just a stereotype of yours that blacks don't take responsibility for themselves and blame racism. I will keep talking about racism because it's a serious issue and it is why the world is like this. I enjoy the debate. Don't judge me based on the fact that I come to this forum.......

bobbimay said:
First of all I am not white, Second, as of May 1st I have all the colors of the human rainbow in my immediate family. I wonder if you can say that??

The point that so many on this and other sites have made is....
enough is enough...