Who are the prisoners in life

@townie_guy Said

We all(most of us) work hard to maintain our standard of living. We all get paid, and using this money we provide ourselves the basics of living

food
shelter
heat
clothing
water

Yet people who commit crimes and get sentanced to prison gt all this provided for them for free. Surely prison should be a punishment. Yet prisoners get free phone calls, they have beds provided, well I had to buy mine myself. And so forth. Plus they get a free education system inside jail and help finding a job


Look at the James Bulger murder, an innocent toddle murdered, yet his murders are released and given new identities. To protect them, yet they committed the crime so they should face upto the consequences.

Sure they have human rights, but on the other hand they have utter disregard to other peoples rights, so why shouldn't there treatment be any different. DO unto others as they do unto you and all that stuff.

Also where does the prison budget come out of, thats right the taxes. So not only do we have to work for our lifestyle, then we have to pay for damages caused by criminals. Sometimes this isnt a case of just material items either, but then we have to pay so that the person who did you wrong gets fair treatment.

To me this is stupid. Im all for Innocent till Proven Guilty. But after you are found guilty, that should be it. Im up for these crazy outlandish laws. Death penalty, theives getting hands cut off, flogging etc.

Yes this is harsh. But it serves a deterrent. If you know that theft will get you a slap on the wrist maybe a bit of community service. Are you really that bothered. But if you know you will get your hands chopped off, well you had best be damned sure you dont get caught.

Again human rights comes into this. People have rights blah blah blah
however The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by observing its prisoners. So yes you may get the nice person or twpo but on whole we are just a bunch of thieves really as a civilisation.

Some say "Boo Hoo the poor prisoner"
I say "Boo Hoo Poor me"

So remember

The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by observing its prisoners.

And that is where are as a whole. Be proud.

@townie_guy Said

Such as?

@townie_guy Said

Such as?

@futilevoice Said

Making sure every child has equal access to education.
Every child is in school instead of in gangs or running the streets.
Creating jobs instead of shipping them overseas.
Use the prison system to rehabilitate criminals.

I'm sure there are more ways...

@hoppy Said

Simple. Allow anyone without a record easy access to gun ownership, NATIONWIDE. Then, let the business owners and legal gun owners and carriers decide the penalties. A shopkeeper gets confronted by robbers, he decides, Kill the SOB's or use his/her gun to just scare them.
If an investigation shows self defense, then don't drag the thing out on the news media and in courts for God knows how long.

@townie_guy Said

Every child does have equal rites in the UK.
How do we enforce people go to school, so far the parents get fined by the police or a truant officer come around. SO how do we ensure that. Explain a system that has no harshness that will ensure a child goes to school.
If someone creates a business it is there business, they can do what they want with it. Again no freedom. If you force people to use more expensive labour, they will just move the entire business overseas. This was a BNP view on businesses.
Rehabilitation. Yeah thats the idea of prison it worls so well. Again explain how we can force inmates to get rahabilitated in prison.

You seem to enjoying giving out ideals. But no realistic work arounds or solutions that in todays society will work.

"The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by observing its prisoners."

@hoppy Said

Simple. Allow anyone without a record easy access to gun ownership, NATIONWIDE. Then, let the business owners and legal gun owners and carriers decide the penalties. A shopkeeper gets confronted by robbers, he decides, Kill the SOB's or use his/her gun to just scare them.
If an investigation shows self defense, then don't drag the thing out on the news media and in courts for God knows how long.

@futilevoice Said

That law is already having some serious backlash in Florida. Do you want it to become nationwide, where we are all living in the wild, wild west?

@futilevoice Said

Statistics show that the threat of punishment does not deter criminals. States that have the death penalty have higher murder rates than those that don't.

I think we as a society should look to preventative measures instead.

@townie_guy Said

The wild west seemed to have everything bang on order to me. Work for the people, justice for the criminals. Not as much tax and not as much political bulls*** to cope with. And housing prices Wernt so high.

@futilevoice Said

Do you think the criminals will just lay down and die? Will their families not take these cases to court if they do? Who do you think will pay for all these cases? We will, the tax payer.

We need to get guns out of everybodies hands. No one should have a gun except peace officers.