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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 00:57:13#1
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I don't understand racists. I don't understand the logic behind their thoughts. The world isn't just black and white and I don't understand how people assume things when they see people based on their colour.

People talk about bloodlines and heritage, and what I want to know is where they draw the line? For an example; Over here the BNP has recently been forced by law to accept non-white members into their political party. What I want to know is how people even define "white"

Say you have the whitest bloke in the world - pale as anything you can think of. Is a guy with a tan not as white as him? He might look the same in all respects but has a tendency to tan well due to some looong gone Roman heritage or something. What about people from Southern Europe? They can be classed as caucasian but some Italians, French, Spanish all have a definite olive skin tone. I mean exactly where the hell on the colour chart do people draw a line? If they did draw a line like that then in the summer time a lot of people would suddenly become non-white because they tan a shade too dark.

OK so that's a very simple example of people's stupidity but trust me, there are people out there talking to the kid of mixed race parents obvlious to the fact they're doing so and just presuming they're "white" cos he looks fairly light skinned. But that leads me to heritage.

If people deem someone white based on their heritage then where do they draw the line there?

If somebody has a black African great grandparent, are they not white? What about their great-great-great grandparent? What about someone of Roman Italian descent?

This is turning in to an essay. I just really want to know how people classify each other and put a box round people. If you start looking at the differences between people scientifically you'll realise that every single person fits into multiple categories and subcategories of however you split them up and every single person is in fact completely unique. I simply don't understand why people think otherwise. There is no logic to pretending you know who someone is if you haven't even met them before, and certainly no logic to seperating people into different shades of colour. What's the point?

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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:05:18#2
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Nor do I understand either.




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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:05:18#3
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if you can find the star trek episode about "racism" i think you would find it interesting. It is about a race of people. On half of them, the left side of their face is white, and the right side is black. On the other people, the left side is black, and the right side is white. They are having a war, and brutally killing each other. This episode was written at a time when racism was a big deal, and a big issue. Of you are really interested in this topic, You should really find that episode somewhere. It's worth watching

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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:05:48#4
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There is no point.

In general, people are racist because they like the people they know, and they assume everyone who doesnt look like them cannot associate with them at all. There are steryotypes surrounding all races, most of which are false, but some that have just enough "evidence" to make people get scared. You have to understand, its all cultural though, and it all has a history.

Like, blacks for instance, are often thought of as tough and gangsters, criminals, people that cannot be trusted. Even if people dont admit it openly, a lot of people think this. Why? Because a minority of their race is portrayed the most in the media and in the real world...the people that get in trouble are the ones we see the most on TV. It doesnt help that many steryotypes are self-fulfilling, and that when we kick the dog long enough when it scratches on the door, it will learn not to try come inside after it is left out.(maybe thats a bad example)

Many races and their cultures associate only with themselves and dont trust others because they are different. They learn nothing from each other and nothing changes from generation to generation, that is why many blacks and hispanics are still in the ghettos and poor towns--they were forced into a specific lifestyle historically, and are only slowly learning to get out of it, if they can. Some are just comfortable with what they have--gangs or not.

Hopefully we can grow beyond all this someday.




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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:06:44#5
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Ahtiz said:

if you can find the star trek episode about "racism" i think you would find it interesting. It is about a race of people. On half of them, the left side of their face is white, and the right side is black. On the other people, the left side is black, and the right side is white. They are having a war, and brutally killing each other. This episode was written at a time when racism was a big deal, and a big issue. Of you are really interested in this topic, You should really find that episode somewhere. It's worth watching



I remember that episode.



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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:08:06#6
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Ahtiz said:

if you can find the star trek episode about "racism" i think you would find it interesting. It is about a race of people. On half of them, the left side of their face is white, and the right side is black. On the other people, the left side is black, and the right side is white. They are having a war, and brutally killing each other. This episode was written at a time when racism was a big deal, and a big issue. Of you are really interested in this topic, You should really find that episode somewhere. It's worth watching



Wow, I'd like to see that myself!

What an excellent way of pointing out the stupidity of racism!




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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:08:10#7
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Good one

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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:08:41#8
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spadge said:

I remember that episode.



Do you remember the name of the episode?




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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:09:00#9
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Ahtiz said:

if you can find the star trek episode about "racism" i think you would find it interesting.


I dunno where I'd find star trek episodes, youtube maybe? It does sound interesting. It also sounds quite hilarious because when one of those people looks in the mirror, they'll see the enemy haha.
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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:11:25#10
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JamHead said:

I dunno where I'd find star trek episodes, youtube maybe? It does sound interesting. It also sounds quite hilarious because when one of those people looks in the mirror, they'll see the enemy haha.



True dat!




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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:11:30#11
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There is no point.

Hopefully we can grow beyond all this someday.


I hope so too. I wish people would spend more time thinking about this the world over. Hence this post I suppose

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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:15:00#12
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loveis said:

Do you remember the name of the episode?



I think it was 'Let that be your last battlefield'



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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:20:56#13
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loveis said:

True dat!



spadge said:

I think it was 'Let that be your last battlefield'



It was, I just watched a trailer for it on youtube. I want to watch the whole thing now!!
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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:22:09#14
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This is it.




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Old Post! Oct 23, 2009 @ 01:23:20#15
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Ahtiz said:

if you can find the star trek episode about "racism" i think you would find it interesting. It is about a race of people. On half of them, the left side of their face is white, and the right side is black. On the other people, the left side is black, and the right side is white. They are having a war, and brutally killing each other. This episode was written at a time when racism was a big deal, and a big issue. Of you are really interested in this topic, You should really find that episode somewhere. It's worth watching



wow, I think I'd actually watch that.

as for racism, I don't know. some people think they're better because of their heritiage/skin color.

I still remember that study about the brown eyes/blue eyes they taught us in school.



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