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New Post! Feb 05, 2010 @ 12:39:42#1
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How does the Nazi Party legalizing the extermination of the jew differ from the modern woman legalizing the extermination of the human fetus. Other than the Nazi Party's homicidal rampage having been successfully brought to a halt?

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New Post! Feb 05, 2010 @ 13:05:57#2
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Zef said:

How does the Nazi Party legalizing the extermination of the jew differ from the modern woman legalizing the extermination of the human fetus.


Significantly.
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New Post! Feb 05, 2010 @ 13:07:17#3
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well the difference is abortion is not genocide.

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New Post! Feb 05, 2010 @ 13:09:14#4
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Zef said:

How does the Nazi Party legalizing the extermination of the jew differ from the modern woman legalizing the extermination of the human fetus. Other than the Nazi Party's homicidal rampage having been successfully brought to a halt?


Are you being serious? It's 2010.

If you believe these to be the same, and you're in your 50s, there really is no point me taking any part in this discussion.
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New Post! Feb 05, 2010 @ 13:37:59#5
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Are you proposing that in essence, it is the same because both events reduced the human person to a disposable object?

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New Post! Feb 05, 2010 @ 14:12:32#6
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Zef said:

How does the Nazi Party legalizing the extermination of the jew differ from the modern woman legalizing the extermination of the human fetus. Other than the Nazi Party's homicidal rampage having been successfully brought to a halt?





Eugenics was mainstream science at the time and the exterminations were of what they believed to be inferior races. Abortions are not based on race, creed, gender, and ethnicity. Abortion is equal opportunity.
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New Post! Feb 05, 2010 @ 21:44:38#8
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Gallows said:

Are you proposing that in essence, it is the same because both events reduced the human person to a disposable object?



The nazis considered the jew to be something other than human, while the women consider the human fetus to be something other than human. Their invalid and baseles classifications of certain types of human are their rationalization for wanton acts of homicide.
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New Post! Feb 06, 2010 @ 01:29:42#9
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Zef: The Nazis considered the Jew(s) to be something other than human…

E: I do not believe that Jews are a race. They are an ethnic group. Main stream science at the time of the Nazis divided humanity into three main groups. Whites (Caucasians) from Europe were considered the most highly evolved, Mongoloids from Asia were in second place, and blacks from Sub-Sahara Africa were considered least evolved. Eugenics, a Pseudo-science at the time, that was not based on any actual facts reasoned that most of the world had been colonized by whites, so the whites must be superior. One of the Nazi motives was to preserve the favored race (Whites) by elimination of less evolved races. Vengeance was also a motive. The Germans believed that a major factor in their loss in World War I and their current problems were the Jews.

E: I do not believe that many abortions are done in an effort to purify the race or as an act of revenge. Most abortions, I suspect, are done because a child would be inconvenient.


Zef: …while the women consider the human fetus to be something other than human.

E: I am not sure you are correct. If I understand correctly, and I have not researched this, and I suspect that you have, so I will respect your opinion; a fetus is at a stage where all of the structural features of an adult are recognizable. This is after about 8 weeks. Up to 8 weeks we have a potential human. How late in a pregnancy can an abortion be legally preformed?



Zef: Their [societies] invalid and baseless classifications of certain types of human are their rationalization for wanton acts of homicide.

E: Do you classify types of humans and if you do how do you go about doing it?

E: I do not believe that a legal abortion can be called homicide. Homicide is something that is illegal.

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New Post! Feb 06, 2010 @ 01:38:27#10
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i think this is a little trolly but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Abortion is the killing of cells that have the potential (like everyother cell in our bodies) to become a human being.
The Nazis murdered actual human beings
simples

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New Post! Feb 06, 2010 @ 01:50:44#11
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Zef said:

while the women consider the human fetus to be something other than human



Thats only fact in your tiny little head.
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New Post! Feb 06, 2010 @ 01:54:34#12
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tomysandy said:

i think this is a little trolly but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Abortion is the killing of cells that have the potential (like everyother cell in our bodies) to become a human being.
The Nazis murdered actual human beings
simples



actually the only cells that can become another human being are the sex cells so an ovum and a sperm.
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New Post! Feb 06, 2010 @ 03:00:21#13
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tomysandy said:

i think this is a little trolly but i'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
Abortion is the killing of cells that have the potential (like everyother cell in our bodies) to become a human being.
The Nazis murdered actual human beings
simples



Well if you ask me the Nazis were not very nice.
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New Post! Feb 06, 2010 @ 03:01:15#14
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MonkeyMadness said:

Thats only fact in your tiny little head.



Is tiny little redundent?
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New Post! Feb 06, 2010 @ 03:02:38#15
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angelcake said:

actually the only cells that can become another human being are the sex cells so an ovum and a sperm.



I did not know that. What about clones?
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